The war in Ukraine...

[czechmate]

Erm, it is a down side and worry of living here… but, how is it relevant to this topic please?

thinking on this, trying to see a relevance, are you suggesting a likelihood of Putin launching an attack on France to de nazify next?

 

[czechmate]

Not that i have to justify to you....but was responding to a post discussing the prevalence of "far right" ideologies.
So posted about the prevalence elsewhere to point out the idiocy of this terminology etc
Sorry, my point seems to be lost on you.
Nationalism is constantly promoted by being a member of a supra national body that strips away national sovereignty.
In this context would be surprising if the "far right" didn't poll well in france.
It's an encouraging sign for you, rather than one that should engender fear/worry

well, I’m quite happy here, and thanks to you my wife can’t live in England, so, I really don’t want to be kicked out by MLP thanks

as before, noting whatsoever to do with Ukraine though

 

[Vader]

The Azov Regiment was under a thousand men and it was reckoned that only 10 to 15% of them had far right ideologies. Out of a military of over a million personnel its hardly a big deal.

In a way it is a big deal, as pre invasion the western press had reported on them and the far right in Ukraine for years.
Very small amount of people, but the western press likes to latch onto stuff and make it a bigger deal than it is.
But then again, you don't normally get openly far right military units allowed in western country's.
So Putin could even use the western press as a way to brainwash his minions about the 'nazis'in Ukraine.

 

[Vader]

thinking on this, trying to see a relevance, are you suggesting a likelihood of Putin launching an attack on France to de nazify next?

Depends if he thinks the Waffen SS Grenadier Division, SS Charlemagne is still active!!

 

[manhill]

Couldn't see that happening but there has to be compromise on all sides, was it 14 countries, seems a lot?

Tell me this if Russia is such a threat to Europe/NATO like they pretend why did Europe sit on it's hands & do bugger all to help the Ukrainians whilst America argued with it's self for 6 months, surely if it is such a threat then Europe would have made damm sure Ukraine had everything it needed in the mean time, instead it stood back & watched from afar & don't give me that bullish!t line that the the UK & EU couldn't spare the ammo or equipment .

The EU would need a megaton bomb under it's arse to make it move on anything ,hence the respect for Boris's support in Ukraine.

 

[czechmate]

The EU would need a megaton bomb under its arse to make it move on anything ,hence the respect for Boris's support in Ukraine.

But then; Germany has donated far more than the uk

 

[fudge]

The USA have donated far more to Ukraine than anyone, yet Mr Stoltenberg is calling for a bigger quicker response. Including proper air defence. Is anyone listening? Whatever his motivation Putin won’t stop without a stronger response from NATO members.

 

[Muck Spreader]

In a way it is a big deal, as pre invasion the western press had reported on them and the far right in Ukraine for years.
Very small amount of people, but the western press likes to latch onto stuff and make it a bigger deal than it is.
But then again, you don't normally get openly far right military units allowed in western country's.
So Putin could even use the western press as a way to brainwash his minions about the 'nazis'in Ukraine.

It's not unique, many military personnel in any armies tend to hero worship elite fighting units from the past, be it the likes of the Waffen SS, Samurai warriors or the Spartans. It's part of building your 'esprit de cour' I guess.

 

[essex man]

well, I’m quite happy here, and thanks to you my wife can’t live in England, so, I really don’t want to be kicked out by MLP thanks

as before, noting whatsoever to do with Ukraine though

well, I’m quite happy here, and thanks to you my wife can’t live in England, so, I really don’t want to be kicked out by MLP thanks

as before, noting whatsoever to do with Ukraine though

You were the one talking about the "downside" and "worry" in living there, i was saying not to worry.
Your wife's rights are not affected by brexit, they are affected by the rules brought in afterwards maybe, brexit was about who decides them, not what they are.

 

[czechmate]

You were the one talking about the "downside" and "worry" in living there, i was saying not to worry.
Your wife's rights are not affected by brexit, they are affected by the rules brought in afterwards maybe, brexit was about who decides them, not what they are.

No interest in talking about brexit, but the simple fact is my wife could and did live in the uk when it was in the eu, now unless she can earn 36 k or whatever (which having farmed with me for 15 years is unlikely) she can’t . You can try and be clever as much as is popular with yourself but it doesn’t alter the reality

 

[BrianV]

The EU would need a megaton bomb under it's arse to make it move on anything ,hence the respect for Boris's support in Ukraine.

Johnson is the cause of most of Ukraine's destruction, very little that Johnson touches ever comes up smelling of roses quite the opposite!

 

[essex man]

No interest in talking about brexit, but the simple fact is my wife could and did live in the uk when it was in the eu, now unless she can earn 36 k or whatever (which having farmed with me for 15 years is unlikely) she can’t . You can try and be clever as much as is popular with yourself but it doesn’t alter the reality

It's stating reality, you want to blame something that isn't to blame, you carry on if it suits you.

 

[essex man]

No interest in talking about brexit, but the simple fact is my wife could and did live in the uk when it was in the eu, now unless she can earn 36 k or whatever (which having farmed with me for 15 years is unlikely) she can’t . You can try and be clever as much as is popular with yourself but it doesn’t alter the reality

If you've "no interest in talking about it" then why carry on talking about it!

 

[czechmate]

If you've "no interest in talking about it" then why carry on talking about it!

do you think you are as clever as you seem to think you are?

 

[Danllan]

well, I’m quite happy here, and thanks to you my wife can’t live in England, so, I really don’t want to be kicked out by MLP thanks

as before, noting whatsoever to do with Ukraine though

Not true! She is married to a British national and, I believe from what you've posted but am happy to be corrected, you were married at the time when obtaining ILR was merely a matter of taking the 'Life in the UK' tests and making the application. And... if she hadn't taken advantage of any of that, as an EU national she could have applied for ILR on that basis. All would enable her to live in England as part of the UK.

Unless, of course, she has a past...

 

[czechmate]

Not true! She is married to a British national and, I believe from what you've posted but am happy to be corrected, you were married at the time when obtaining ILR was merely a matter of taking the 'Life in the UK' tests and making the application. And... if she hadn't taken advantage of any of that, as an EU national she could have applied for ILR on that basis. All would enable her to live in England as part of the UK.

Unless, of course, she has a past...

i don’t know if any of that is true, I was actually going to write can’t/won’t; but this is the Ukraine thread so not relevant really - so on top of the potential can’t , she won’t due to her best friend (Slovak) experience living in England since 2016, married to a Welshman with 2 English born kids.

i really don’t want to discuss it here, it was only to point out to Gavin that my fears of MLP are quite genuine (and regularly pointed out by local French)

 

[BrianV]

i don’t know if any of that is true, I was actually going to write can’t/won’t; but this is the Ukraine thread so not relevant really - so on top of the potential can’t , she won’t due to her best friend (Slovak) experience living in England since 2016, married to a Welshman with 2 English born kids.

i really don’t want to discuss it here, it was only to point out to Gavin that my fears of MLP are quite genuine (and regularly pointed out by local French)

Not sure it's necessarily just the right wing in France, we may see with the voting in the EU this summer that all pro war governing parties take a serious hit which will of course be blamed on Russian interference in the voting systems.

 

[czechmate]

Not sure it's necessarily just the right wing in France, we may see with the voting in the EU this summer that all pro war governing parties take a serious hit which will of course be blamed on Russian interference in the voting systems.

Blamed/due to

 

[czechmate]

Not sure it's necessarily just the right wing in France, we may see with the voting in the EU this summer that all pro war governing parties take a serious hit which will of course be blamed on Russian interference in the voting systems.

It is a sad fact that you are not the only one more concerned with their own fuel bills/availability than the suffering in Ukraine

 

[Vader]

It's not unique, many military personnel in any armies tend to hero worship elite fighting units from the past, be it the likes of the Waffen SS, Samurai warriors or the Spartans. It's part of building your 'esprit de cour' I guess.

Not sure if there was a British unit openly being neo nazi that would be seen as ok...