What happens with Scotland now?

[its yourself]

its really too difficult to say what will happen, back in 2014 the situation was fairly stable, now everything is up in the air. the political landscape has changed slighty in scotland as well, you now have people who voted yes last time who say they will vote no because they dont want to be in the eu, then you have no voters who may vote yes as they want the eu.

god knows what the eu will look like in 2 years time, the french may have done a runner too. there could be another eurozone crisis, there could be another banking crisis.

the snp have ran up a £10bn budget deficit that is money that is going to have to be found, im not sure how enthusiastic the eu is in wanting another near broke country to deal with, they have enough on their plate with greece, at least the uk was a net contributor, with them leaving there will be even less money about.

basically the world is buggered anyway, things like the eu could fall apart at anytime, scottish independence may not be the most important thing in the world if it goes tits up

The SNP have not run up any deficit.

The Scottish budget is balanced.

The Scottish Government must by law balance the books every year.

I think you may be confused.

The UK government runs the deficit.

And funds it by QE.

£250 billion pumped into the markets on Friday alone.

Expect much more in the next few weeks.

 

[Colin]

UK funds the deficit part of which is created by Scotland

 

[its yourself]

UK funds the deficit part of which is created by Scotland

Again no.

The spending on Trident etc is UK spending.

Blaming Scotland for UK decisions is simply wrong.

And if Scotland is so expensive why not let us go?

You didn't want to pay for the EU so don't pay for us.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Sturgeon, She appeared a broken woman this morning, the fire in her belly tuning to ash, she's in a trap with no way out, she can't do right now for doing wrong

 

[Henarar]

And if Scotland is so expensive why not let us go?

Ok go leave you are good at that leaver

 

[Knockie]

All I know is post 2008 the whole country has been experiencing tough times and massive uncertainty through Scottish and eu referendums certainly doesn't help. This IS having a huge negative effect on economic stability. I've a few projects on the go just now all influenced by this uncertainty, do the SNP really appreciate the damage their desire for Indy2 is doing. If the SNP want Indy2 bluddy get on with it and take the risk of finishing NS and the SNP for good.......another few years of trailing our great country through the gutters simply won't do.

 

[PSQ]

 

[DB67]

An independent Scotland is going to happen. Bring it on. Still people on here tell us how much we cost as some sort of negative to it. Well if we are so expensive to run surely you would want rid of us? Scotland and England are very different politically now. General election and the Brexit vote show that. Time to go our own ways and have a friendly working relationship as neighbours

 

[DB67]

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How old are you. She's a better politician than most of the private educated toffs in Westminster

 

[PSQ]

An independent Scotland is going to happen. Bring it on. Still people on here tell us how much we cost as some sort of negative to it. Well if we are so expensive to run surely you would want rid of us? Scotland and England are very different politically now. General election and the Brexit vote show that. Time to go our own ways and have a friendly working relationship as neighbours

Sturgeons Wall - Schengen border posts between Berwick and Gretna, and mandatory adoption of the Euro, MY ARSE
Watch the link on the 'Virtual Hadrian' thread: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/a-virtual-hadrian.126316/#post-2636862

She's toast, and she knows it!

 

[its yourself]

Legislative consent for leave will not be granted.

What will Boris do then?

 

[Goweresque]

The SNP have not run up any deficit.

The Scottish budget is balanced.

The Scottish Government must by law balance the books every year.

I think you may be confused.

The UK government runs the deficit.

And funds it by QE.

£250 billion pumped into the markets on Friday alone.

Expect much more in the next few weeks.

Of course the current Scottish Assembly budget is balanced, they get a sum of money from Westminster, which they spend. They aren't allowed to borrow money, any more than the NHS is allowed to go and borrow money.

The GERS figures show that the amount of revenue an independent Scotland could raise (including all applicable oil revenues) is currently £15bn less than the current level of spending in Scotland, or c. £3000 for every man woman and child in Scotland.

Unless you can discover an inexhaustible pot of gold somewhere north of the Clyde an independent Scotland is stony broke from day one. Now you can go all Tartan warrior if you like, but it isn't going to change those facts, and they would have to be addressed.

In fact I'll make a prediction, if another referendum is held on Scottish independence the result will be far greater to stay than last time, probably 2 to 1. The Scots are not stupid, they are not going to vote to be impoverished by the Nationalists.

 

[farmerclare]

How old are you. She's a better politician than most of the private educated toffs in Westminster

I'm 45 don't see what that's got to do with anything

 

[Danllan]

Of course the current Scottish Assembly budget is balanced, they get a sum of money from Westminster, which they spend. They aren't allowed to borrow money, any more than the NHS is allowed to go and borrow money.

The GERS figures show that the amount of revenue an independent Scotland could raise (including all applicable oil revenues) is currently £15bn less than the current level of spending in Scotland, or c. £3000 for every man woman and child in Scotland.

Unless you can discover an inexhaustible pot of gold somewhere north of the Clyde an independent Scotland is stony broke from day one. Now you can go all Tartan warrior if you like, but it isn't going to change those facts, and they would have to be addressed.

In fact I'll make a prediction, if another referendum is held on Scottish independence the result will be far greater to stay than last time, probably 2 to 1. The Scots are not stupid, they are not going to vote to be impoverished by the Nationalists.

Don't be daft this is economic reality, he only deals in nationalist dogma...

 

[Giles1]

Whole new game now.

All previous bets are off.

There's all the UK pensioners in Spain for a start.

Wonder how happy they are today?

You think Spain will heave them out?I think the Spanish will do their utmost to hang on to them without any kind of penalties being imposed,they are a significant part of the Spanish economy.Two separate currencies involved anyway,reciprocal agreements between Health services just need a tick to say they are happy the way things are,just have to go through the non EU channel at the airport instead,no big deal.

 

[Henarar]

I'm 45 don't see what that's got to do with anything

and it was funny

 

[Henarar]

Legislative consent for leave will not be granted.

What will Boris do then?

Will that mean you can't leave ?
hell no you have to leave you have no choice

 

[Henarar]

An independent Scotland is going to happen. Bring it on. Still people on here tell us how much we cost as some sort of negative to it. Well if we are so expensive to run surely you would want rid of us? Scotland and England are very different politically now. General election and the Brexit vote show that. Time to go our own ways and have a friendly working relationship as neighbours

good post
nice to hear it being talked about in a way that doesn't sound like a threat
If you have another vote and I think it should be up to you [as in the good folk ov Scotland] and you want to leave then the best of luck to you

 

[RobFZS]

i feel sorry for Hilly if the scots do go, socialism forever

 

[Muck Spreader]

Sturgeon, She appeared a broken woman this morning, the fire in her belly tuning to ash, she's in a trap with no way out, she can't do right now for doing wrong

In what way? It looks like she maybe just about sh1t on your parade.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244