What kills red clover?

[YorksLass]

Whilst killing as few other species of grasses/ herbal ley as possible please?

I'm convinced its come in a seed mix that shouldn't have had any but of course the seed company are swearing no one else has complained and it must've self seeded - not in this volume it hasnt in one year
Cheers.

 

[davidroberts30]

sheep, let them graze it too tight
why would you worry about RC in a herbal ley??
its high protein and a legume so benefits ?

 

[milkloss]

Anything kills red clover pretty much. Fluroxypyr (minstrel, starane) will sort it pretty quick.

anything that kills docks really, mcpa or 24d would probably do it too.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Unlike white clover, the growing points of red clover are above ground and are therefore vulnerable. Tight grazing will knock it back massively as I doesn’t benefit from being eaten right down or stood on.

(I’m doing the opposite; grazing carefully so it isn’t grazed out)

 

[Nearly]

@Great In Grass
I've just spent ££ to get some of the stuff on the farm.

 

[Exfarmer]

why would anyone want to kill it ? it will naturally die out if grazed hard

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Whilst killing as few other species of grasses/ herbal ley as possible please?

I'm convinced its come in a seed mix that shouldn't have had any but of course the seed company are swearing no one else has complained and it must've self seeded - not in this volume it hasnt in one year
Cheers.

Nothing im aware if will take out Red Clover in a Herbal ley ,but if you just want ti be left with grass most if the Dock Sprays will

 

[Great In Grass]

@Great In Grass
I've just spent ££ to get some of the stuff on the farm.

Your contribution was greatly received.

 

[ollie989898]

Whatever wipes out the red will also probably wipe out whatever broadleaf stuff you happen to have there. You'll just have to live with it.

 

[crashbox]

Whilst killing as few other species of grasses/ herbal ley as possible please?

I'm convinced its come in a seed mix that shouldn't have had any but of course the seed company are swearing no one else has complained and it must've self seeded - not in this volume it hasnt in one year
Cheers.

As others have said, over grazing.
It won't persist.

But again, the question is why kill it.

 

[flywheel]

Look at rc the wrong way & it will dissappear ..

 

[YorksLass]

It’s on land we do horse hay from and some is also grazed over winter - red clover is an endocrine disruptor and too high in protein, starch and potassium for equines. Basically sends their brains doolally and bodies into breakdown

 

[YorksLass]

This is what the mix should be but I’ve got….

 

[glasshouse]

Whilst killing as few other species of grasses/ herbal ley as possible please?

I'm convinced its come in a seed mix that shouldn't have had any but of course the seed company are swearing no one else has complained and it must've self seeded - not in this volume it hasnt in one year
Cheers.

Been a very good year for self seed red clover, my barley was full of it

 

[neilo]

It’s on land we do horse hay from and some is also grazed over winter - red clover is an endocrine disruptor and too high in protein, starch and potassium for equines. Basically sends their brains doolally and bodies into breakdown

If you graze it very hard with sheep over winter then you will likely, kill most of it out. However, as with any effective herbicides, you will likely kill out most of the other ‘herbs’ there, which you presumably wanted.

IF the RC came in the seed mix, then it’s likely some will only emerge next year, so you’ll not be rid of it in one go. You will certainly reduce it by punishing it over winter though.

 

[Gander]

Is it even across the whole field? How was the ley sown?

 

[ollie989898]

That is too strong for nags, need to get the sheep on it for a bit. Horses will be as fat as pigs if you let them in that.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

That clover could hang about for a good few years
Your only option us to spray if you want rid
Use a spray witb a residual to stop it self seeding

 

[crashbox]

Ah, fair point.

Well at the moment you're doing the right approach to let it persist (i.e. flower and self seed).

Zing it off with a mower and bale it up.

Then punish with sheep over winter as per @neilo.

Good luck.

 

[DrWazzock]

We’ve had all sorts of exotic unwanted species in seed bags. I think in the rush to cash in on the demand for all sorts of fancy seed mixes some of these merchants aren’t sweeping out their bagging plants thoroughly enough. You’d only need a ounce of clover seed stuck in the machine to seed a field of it got into the next batch.