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Cattle Pacifiers - debate pro and cons
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I use a TENS machine on myself all day to releave back pain. 2 electrode pads above and below the area to confuse the pain signal..
I don't think that the Pacifier is that different.
I don't think that the Pacifier is that different.
very slick looks like it works too but still can't see it being easy to insert on a mental cow in a crush
Thick Farmer
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It looks fantastic. I'm seriously tempted to get one!
Your cattle won't stand still on command then ?
@Kiwifarmerjoe this is the big debate
Kiwifarmerjoe
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Well having used a pacifier myself I think they are marvelous, great for heifers or a cow that has a cut tit
I know they vibrate but it's not like a electric shock that's used on the bulls, bit like a vibrating dido to put it bluntly I can't see the harm myself
Things that do hurt cows that people use include
Freeze branding
Dehorning, especially some tight farmers that do it without pain killers
Kick bars (hate those)
A bucket for scooping up down Cows instead of using hip lifters
Alkathene pipe some farmers use to drive cattle (or beat)
Just saying I can see why pacifiers are illegal here but also there are other things that hurt cows
I know they vibrate but it's not like a electric shock that's used on the bulls, bit like a vibrating dido to put it bluntly I can't see the harm myself
Things that do hurt cows that people use include
Freeze branding
Dehorning, especially some tight farmers that do it without pain killers
Kick bars (hate those)
A bucket for scooping up down Cows instead of using hip lifters
Alkathene pipe some farmers use to drive cattle (or beat)
Just saying I can see why pacifiers are illegal here but also there are other things that hurt cows
Kiwifarmerjoe
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Okay but hip lifters and a strop on the front are way safer than a bucket plus it's a one man operation
Kiwifarmerjoe
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Whilst I have your attention are cattle prods legal here as you can buy them here?
Legal yes, but you could be prosecuted for causing unnecessary suffering with one. I've told farmers off for using them on a couple of occasions.
Kiwifarmerjoe
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Yes they have there place but unfortunately I know what you mean I have seen them inappropriately used before
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Anyone know where I can get one of these for the wife?
A Kiwi?
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I wonder what the postage would be?
Post a picture of your wife. He may be willing to cover own transport?
Kiwifarmerjoe
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Just pop down to your local supermarket and get a whole pack of kiwis
Headless chicken
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I see no issue with a cattle prod when used in the correct manor. To me the correct manor is when you have an animal nearly up a ramp or into a crush and it's getting annoyed then you give a small buzz which makes them move. IMO that's better than beating hell out of them with a stick.
I have had to use 1 once in my life time when my job was to watch someone straw down incase a freshly calved jersey attempted to kill him fortunately she stayed well clear and all was well but it was there if needs be
I have had to use 1 once in my life time when my job was to watch someone straw down incase a freshly calved jersey attempted to kill him fortunately she stayed well clear and all was well but it was there if needs be
Headless chicken
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As far as pacifier goes I'm not keen on it but I can see the benefit. I think it could be used as a substitute for improper handling systems and management.
Headless chicken
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And we don't use kick bars in the parlour here. Used it for a week on 1 cow and she stopped being a dick so we stopped using it