Heavy metal toxicity

[Badshot]

Does anyone know much about it? Just I know someone who is suffering from a build up of manganese, copper and something else which I have forgotten as I was a bit shocked at the time. I had no idea manganese could be a problem.

 

[richard hammond]

Does anyone know much about it? Just I know someone who is suffering from a build up of manganese, copper and something else which I have forgotten as I was a bit shocked at the time. I had no idea manganese could be a problem.

would be interested why or how this has happened? what is the soil type, and what has been applied over the last 10years?

 

[Badshot]

It is thought to have come about from working on sprayers his whole life, repairing them not sitting in them.

 

[richard hammond]

It is thought to have come about from working on sprayers his whole life, repairing them not sitting in them.

Sorry I did not gather it was an operator/ mechanic poisoning problem, if the chap has had a medical then he needs
to change jobs or take advise.!

 

[Zetor]

Yes, my dad passed away last year just 56yr old, the neurological disease he suffered from was apparently caused by a build up of toxins in his system and one of the toxins discussed was manganese and aluminium.

 

[Badshot]

Yes, my dad passed away last year just 56yr old, the neurological disease he suffered from was apparently caused by a build up of toxins in his system and one of the toxins discussed was manganese and aluminium.

I'm very sorry to hear that. Was his balance affected?

 

[Zetor]

Yes, his balance was one of the first symptoms.

 

[Badshot]

Slurring his words? Sorry for the questions?

 

[Zetor]

Yes, he used to have regular meeting with the speech therapist.

Has your friend been diagnosed with having any particular disease?

Don't worry about questions, I'm happy to discuss

 

[Badshot]

Thanks,

he has been diagnosed as having a build up of heavy metals in the brain and kidneys so far. It has taken 18 months to get to this stage. Is there any treatment to reduce these heavy metals?

 

[Zetor]

My dad was diagnosed with MSA (multiple system atrophy)
http://www.msatrust.org.uk

Does your friend have problems with bladder & blood pressure?
Unfortunately wasn't much they could do for dad, in the early days it seemed exercise helped to slow the progress of the disease.

 

[PSQ]

IIRC correctly, the Americans often refer to 'Manganism', an accumulation of manganese in the body that gives symptoms very similar to Parkinsons disease. Apparently quite common with welders breathing fumes from the flux on welding rods, potters who add manganese to clay and farmers, amongst others. Gave me the heeby jeebies when I read it, as I used to use dry flow manganese with the sprayer without ever bothering with a dust mask. Always thought the thick dust smelled of coco powder. Now using liquid manganese exclusively, and being extra careful with getting it on skin etc.

 

[Badshot]

My dad was diagnosed with MSA (multiple system atrophy)
http://www.msatrust.org.uk

Does your friend have problems with bladder & blood pressure?
Unfortunately wasn't much they could do for dad, in the early days it seemed exercise helped to slow the progress of the disease.

He's pretty active, goes shooting still and still doing some work but avoiding sprayers for obvious reasons. I don't think he has bladder problems but the blood pressure could be some of the dizziness.
I'll have to have a chat with him, it doesn't sound like he's been diagnosed with MSA yet, just high levels of heavy metals.

 

[Badshot]

IIRC correctly, the Americans often refer to 'Manganism', an accumulation of manganese in the body that gives symptoms very similar to Parkinsons disease. Apparently quite common with welders breathing fumes from the flux on welding rods, potters who add manganese to clay and farmers, amongst others. Gave me the heeby jeebies when I read it, as I used to use dry flow manganese with the sprayer without ever bothering with a dust mask. Always thought the thick dust smelled of coco powder. Now using liquid manganese exclusively, and being extra careful with getting it on skin etc.

Can't believe it myself tbh, just goes to show even innocuous trace elements need handling with care.

 

[snowhite]

very sad , and sorry to hear about your Zetor , back in the days people did not know as much about sprays people smoked while mixing the spray and used tractors with on protection

 

[Zetor]

Thanks snowhite, My dad did very little spraying, there was a link with the heavy metals to our water supply, but Although MSA Is a rare disease it is apparently frequently found amongst airline pilots and sheep farmers.

 

[Badshot]

Interesting, wonder if he's had his water supply tested

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Had no idea manganese could be so harmful! I use a lot on our land, will definitely take more precaution from now on.
Thanks for bringing up the subject.

 

[rob1]

I always thought it was ok but was told a couple of years ok that mn is carcinogenic

 

[York]

almost every mineral can be benefit or toxic. Paracelsius created a phrase like this: "the dosage does the poison".
I'm personally on a detoxifying program but will not comment on how good it works until I have my next test done soon.
York-Th.