Iceland - 4 pints of milk for 89p

[Big Al]

whats the global price atm?

God knows but its probably expressed in kg of milk solids rather than p/litre. (Where's a Kiwi when you need one) I expect its still a fair bit lower than the current UK average price.

 

[neilo]

You have no cattle at all now?

Nope. Show me some figures that make the capital investment in dairy (or beef come to that) worthwhile, starting from scratch and having to either rent at a daft rate, or to invest in infrastructure/facilities.

 

[Baling Hay]

Nope. Show me some figures that make the capital investment in dairy (or beef come to that) worthwhile, starting from scratch and having to either rent at a daft rate, or to invest in infrastructure/facilities.

Can't do that, don't want any more competition!

 

[Baling Hay]

Nope. Show me some figures that make the capital investment in dairy (or beef come to that) worthwhile, starting from scratch and having to either rent at a daft rate, or to invest in infrastructure/facilities.

I think if I was going into milk now I would seriously look at once a day milking. I don't mind milking in the morning, but I hate quiting jobs to go back to milking in the afternoon!

 

[neilo]

so you gave up but now preach from the side lines

Not preaching at all. I just don't see why a supermarket selling milk at a loss necessarily means a lower milk price to producers. Obviously any decent business will seek to reduce that loss, which is when the producers need strength (which they haven't got). All this about reducing the image of milk is a nonsense as far as I'm concerned, and always has been. It's a staple product, much like spuds, which is why it's used as a loss leader to buy footfall so often.

 

[Thick Farmer]

I think if I was going into milk now I would seriously look at once a day milking. I don't mind milking in the morning, but I hate quiting jobs to go back to milking in the afternoon!

But surely if you are dairying then milking IS your job!

 

[grumpy]

Not preaching at all. I just don't see why a supermarket selling milk at a loss necessarily means a lower milk price to producers. Obviously any decent business will seek to reduce that loss, which is when the producers need strength (which they haven't got). All this about reducing the image of milk is a nonsense as far as I'm concerned, and always has been. It's a staple product, much like spuds, which is why it's used as a loss leader to buy footfall so often.

you mean spuds that are £1000 a ton in super markets and spot price today from field £60 a ton did you invest in supermarket shares wnen you baled from dairying?

 

[grumpy]

But surely if you are dairying then milking IS your job!

err no as you need a real job to keep the hobby of pulling tits going,

 

[Baling Hay]

But surely if you are dairying then milking IS your job!

I am not on the farm full time, plus our set up and climate would not favor once a day. I meant if I was starting fresh.

 

[Thick Farmer]

I am not on the farm full time, plus our set up and climate would not favor once a day. I meant if I was starting fresh.

If I was considering going into dairying at the moment the first thing I would do is book myself into the nut house!

 

[bobk]

If I was considering going into dairying at the moment the first thing I would do is book myself into the nut house!

Didn't know they'd released you

 

[Yale]

I am not entirely convinced that the public are that concerned with processor/retailer profit margins. Probably not that bothered about farmers margins either.
There is currently a situation where supply exceeds demand, would you prefers supermarkets put the price up so that demand falls even further away from equilibrium. Price cuts might even stimulate a bit more demand to help mop up all those extra litres.

Folk won't buy any more milk,it's just they'll shop where it is cheaper.

The bottom line is there is less on the bottom line.

 

[YorkshireAndrew]

Do people actually change where they buy their milk just to save 20p for 4 pints of milk , I think not . They shop around for stuff like alcohol & ready meals but not staple food items .

 

[bobk]

Do people actually change where they buy their milk just to save 20p for 4 pints of milk , I think not . They shop around for stuff like alcohol & ready meals but not staple food items .

Coming from a yorkie that's nearly funny , everyone round here buys their milk and bread from aldi, tins from tesco and meat from the butcher

 

[FonterraFarmer]

God knows but its probably expressed in kg of milk solids rather than p/litre. (Where's a Kiwi when you need one) I expect its still a fair bit lower than the current UK average price.

Just wait for tomorrows GDT

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Being positive, this tells me and gives me everthing I want,

 

[neilo]

you mean spuds that are £1000 a ton in super markets and spot price today from field £60 a ton did you invest in supermarket shares wnen you baled from dairying?

I didn't bail from dairying, but from an abusive 'partnership'. If I was still at home, I would most definitely still be pushing for high production from pure Holsteins, as the infrastructure & herd is already there to be developed further. It saddens me to see that herd going one way, and the plough eating ever more grassland up, but then that's just the stockman in me. Life moves on however and we all make our own choices.

The fact remains, that I still haven't seen any figures that could persuade me that it's worth going into cattle farming (of any sort) from scratch these days, however much I might miss having them about.

Supermarkets are certainly running on a stronger business model than most farms, I agree, so an investment in their shares could well make more sense than sinking the same £'s into primary production. However, being something off an expert in reading the stock market, I would have put the whole lot on Tesco going from strength to strength.

 

[grumpy]

I didn't bail from dairying, but from an abusive 'partnership'. If I was still at home, I would most definitely still be pushing for high production from pure Holsteins, as the infrastructure & herd is already there to be developed further. It saddens me to see that herd going one way, and the plough eating ever more grassland up, but then that's just the stockman in me. Life moves on however and we all make our own choices.

The fact remains, that I still haven't seen any figures that could persuade me that it's worth going into cattle farming (of any sort) from scratch these days, however much I might miss having them about.

Supermarkets are certainly running on a stronger business model than most farms, I agree, so an investment in their shares could well make more sense than sinking the same £'s into primary production. However, being something off an expert in reading the stock market, I would have put the whole lot on Tesco going from strength to strength.

you got out of dodge,

 

[neilo]

you got out of dodge,

?

 

[Jock]

Folk won't buy any more milk,it's just they'll shop where it is cheaper.

Agree they won't buy anymore but not so sure about the second point.
Most people would struggle to tell you the price of 4 pints of milk far less be bothered finding somewhere cheaper to find it.
Most just chuck it in the trolley without thinking as they go round doing the weekly shop.