The war in Ukraine...

[essex man]

do you think you are as clever as you seem to think you are?

So you are telling me what i think now?
Why not just stick with what you think?
Unless it's about brexit, obviously, because you don't want to talk about that

 

[czechmate]

So you are telling me what i think now?
Why not just stick with what you think?
Unless it's about brexit, obviously, because you don't want to talk about that

Do you know what “seem to” means?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Not sure if there was a British unit openly being neo nazi that would be seen as ok...

Whose to say it was Ok in Ukraine. The Azov battalion was initially a private militia financed by a Jewish Billionaire that was then incorporated into the national defence force fighting in the Donbas war.

 

[Danllan]

i don’t know if any of that is true, I was actually going to write can’t/won’t; but this is the Ukraine thread so not relevant really - so on top of the potential can’t , she won’t due to her best friend (Slovak) experience living in England since 2016, married to a Welshman with 2 English born kids.

i really don’t want to discuss it here, it was only to point out to Gavin that my fears of MLP are quite genuine (and regularly pointed out by local French)

Fair enough...

 

[essex man]

Do you know what “seem to” means?

Yes, you speculating as to what i think, then responding to your speculation.
Why not just read what i say, it's simpler?

 

[Fendt65]

Johnson is the cause of most of Ukraine's destruction, very little that Johnson touches ever comes up smelling of roses quite the opposite!

I think if you asked the average Ukrainian there answer would surely be putin ?

 

[Robbt]

Putin is the cause of most of Ukraine's destruction, very little that Johnson touches ever comes up smelling of roses quite the opposite!

Get it right,Brian

 

[BrianV]

Get it right,Brian

It was right the first time, Johnson is the Tory equivalent of Blair as history will record.

 

[Robbt]

It was right the first time, Johnson is the Tory equivalent of Blair as history will record.

Putin is the cause of Ukraine s destruction.Get it right!

 

[fudge]

The “destruction” of Ukraine, if that’s what it is, could have been avoided with a stronger response to Russian aggression. Unfortunately western greed got in the way. Boris “not all Russian money is bad money” Johnson and his party share some of the responsibility for that. The Russian campaign continues to be financed by sales of commodities to our trading partners. It seems the price of freedom is cheap Chinese and Indian labour.

 

[DrWazzock]

The whole thing really does call into question the competence of Western politicians.
Having decided to egg Ukraine on, to then drip feed supplies of weapons is inexcusable in my view.
We should either have stayed right out of it or gone full throttle all the way. The constant delay, hesitancy and indecision will lose the war.

 

[DrWazzock]

The fact is that that thanks to half hearted western support they’ve lost too many good men of fighting age. This is now turning into a critical shortage. So what next? It’s a real mess now.

 

[essex man]

The whole thing really does call into question the competence of Western politicians.
Having decided to egg Ukraine on, to then drip feed supplies of weapons is inexcusable in my view.
We should either have stayed right out of it or gone full throttle all the way. The constant delay, hesitancy and indecision will lose the war.

The politicians have simply done what their electorate wanted them too.
The majority did not wish to abandon the Ukrainians to the russian agression, nor they wish to take on the russians more fully with obvious greater risk.
This policy has enabled flag(ukrainian) waving in british streets and armchair generalship in abundance.

 

[Danllan]

Yes, you speculating as to what i think, then responding to your speculation.
Why not just read what i say, it's simpler?

Why don't you take things as they're obviously intended rather than arguing the toss?

 

[essex man]

Why don't you take things as they're obviously intended rather than arguing the toss?

Are you arguing the toss here or something more worthwhile?

 

[essex man]

Why don't you take things as they're obviously intended rather than arguing the toss?

He's the one saying, "i don't want to talk about this" then talking about it.
It's a clear tactic to have your say and not allow response.
Funny you wish to pile in on this, but carry on

 

[Devil's advocate]

The whole thing really does call into question the competence of Western politicians.
Having decided to egg Ukraine on, to then drip feed supplies of weapons is inexcusable in my view.
We should either have stayed right out of it or gone full throttle all the way. The constant delay, hesitancy and indecision will lose the war.

Good points.

Should go full throttle all the way now & should have done on day 2.

 

[czechmate]

Good points.

Should go full throttle all the way now & should have done on day 2.

But that has always been difficult with high up Russians threatening to throw nukes

 

[BrianV]

But that has always been difficult with high up Russians threatening to throw nukes

Maybe Biden should have thought of that when he said Ukrainian membership of NATO was non negotiable when in reality they will never join!

 

[czechmate]

Maybe Biden should have thought of that when he said Ukrainian membership of NATO was non negotiable when in reality they will never join!

That’s a big word Bri