US shootings reach a new level of insanity

[Muck Spreader]

What is wrong with these people, they seem to frightened of their own shadows.

What is a stand your ground law and which states have one?

Recent shootings of unarmed victims raise questions about the right to protect people and property.

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Kaylin Gillis: Woman shot dead in New York state after friend pulled into wrong driveway

Family remembers Kaylin Gillis as "beautiful soul and ray of light" who will be deeply missed.

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[kiwi pom]

Then there's the argument that everyone should have a gun so it's fair.
That doesn't work either.

Video shows police at wrong house before fatal shooting of homeowner in New Mexico

Robert Dotson was killed after police in Farmington, New Mexico, said he opened the door late April 5 with a handgun. Officer responding to a call were at the wrong address.

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[wanton dwarf]

What is wrong with these people, they seem to frightened of their own shadows.

I don't live in the USA.

I can see shooting "innocent people" is not a great thing. However, I can also see that the USA has significant Crime problems which are gun related.

They are not frightened of their own shadows, they are faced with Crime which unfortunately some politicians don't care about.

Ring doorbell records armed robber impersonating a delivery driver

Xavier Otero, 37, was caught on a Ring camera attempting to rob a homeowner in East Haven on Friday morning. His accomplice Jean Carrasquillo-Torres, 26, has also been charged.

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Moment group of teens attack woman in Chicago

A group of Chicago teenagers were captured on video attacking a woman Saturday night as she tried to enter her apartment.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[kiwi pom]

I don't live in the USA.

I can see shooting "innocent people" is not a great thing. However, I can also see that the USA has significant Crime problems which are gun related.

They are not frightened of their own shadows, they are faced with Crime which unfortunately some politicians don't care about.

Ring doorbell records armed robber impersonating a delivery driver

Xavier Otero, 37, was caught on a Ring camera attempting to rob a homeowner in East Haven on Friday morning. His accomplice Jean Carrasquillo-Torres, 26, has also been charged.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Moment group of teens attack woman in Chicago

A group of Chicago teenagers were captured on video attacking a woman Saturday night as she tried to enter her apartment.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yes, generally it would be better if no one had access to guns.
It's not going to happen, but I don't think everyone walking round with AR-15's makes it better either.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Yes, generally it would be better if no one had access to guns.
It's not going to happen, but I don't think everyone walking round with AR-15's makes it better either.

I don't agree.

Either the state has got to eliminate crime & look after citizens or law abiding people need guns to protect themselves.

States all over the world have extreme agendas, create wars, criminal gangs are rife, drugs are rife, illegal immigration is rife - guns are more needed by ordinary people than ever.

I have never seen such total disregard for ordinary people by Politicians - I think most people have had more than enough.

 

[kiwi pom]

I don't agree.

Either the state has got to eliminate crime & look after citizens or law abiding people need guns to protect themselves.

States all over the world have extreme agendas, create wars, criminal gangs are rife, drugs are rife, illegal immigration is rife - guns are more needed by ordinary people than ever.

I have never seen such total disregard for ordinary people by Politicians - I think most people have had more than enough.

So you end up with a situation where everyone is armed to the teeth? That doesn't fix anything nor does it mean law-abiding citizens can defend themselves, it just means more people have guns and get shot and the police have a harder time trying to decide whether that person with an AR is a good citizen or about to kill them.

I agree that it's gone too far in the US and there's only one-way things can go.
Other countries, where things aren't so bad should take note. It's why I'm glad Cindy took some of the guns out of circulation here. Now government needs to carry on and shut down the gangs too.

 

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[Danllan]

And another one...

Six-year-old shot after basketball rolls into North Carolina man's yard

Police report the arrest of a man accused of shooting a little girl and her father in North Carolina.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Muck Spreader]

And another one...

Six-year-old shot after basketball rolls into North Carolina man's yard

Police report the arrest of a man accused of shooting a little girl and her father in North Carolina.

www.bbc.co.uk

I see the BBC also were reporting this

Two Texas cheerleaders shot after one gets into wrong car

A 25-year-old man has been charged over the shooting at a supermarket carpark in Austin, Texas.

www.bbc.com

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Lives lost for no reason at all.

Absolute madness.


Every single one of them are crazy to argue against gun control.

 

[kiwi pom]

Lives lost for no reason at all.

Absolute madness.


Every single one of them are crazy to argue against gun control.

I agree but there's no way America is giving up their guns so what do you do?

 

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Fix law and order first before trying to take away peoples guns

 

[Muck Spreader]

Fix law and order first before trying to take away peoples guns

Robbery and theft are lower in the US than many counties including the UK and France, but homicides are massively higher. Criminal law in the US is a state thing not federal.

 

[kiwi pom]

Fix law and order first before trying to take away peoples guns

How do you do that, they already have heaps of cops, and more full prisons than anyone else.
The problem with giving people guns is everyone then has to have them, and everything turns into a shoot-out.
Better to have none. Again, I realise that's not happening in America.

 

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Plenty situations where guns have saved people who would otherwise have been assaulted or worse you can ban guns tomorrow that won’t stop criminals using them

 

[ollie989898]

What is wrong with these people, they seem to frightened of their own shadows.

What is a stand your ground law and which states have one?

Recent shootings of unarmed victims raise questions about the right to protect people and property.

www.bbc.com

Kaylin Gillis: Woman shot dead in New York state after friend pulled into wrong driveway

Family remembers Kaylin Gillis as "beautiful soul and ray of light" who will be deeply missed.

www.bbc.com

Talk about freedom but they are apparently living in fear of virtually anyone who enters their property or comes near their front door to the extent they will open fire on them without blinking? I get confused sometimes are we talking about the United States or just a particularly rowdy part of Somalia?

 

[kiwi pom]

Plenty situations where guns have saved people who would otherwise have been assaulted or worse you can ban guns tomorrow that won’t stop criminals using them

Yes there are, there's also plenty of situations where kids have been killed by their parents poorly stored guns. There's evidence for every argument you want to make.
Bottom line is you can't get shot if there's no guns.
Too late to keep them out of America. More work could be done to reduce them in places like the UK though.

Do you think everyone should have a gun?

 

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Yes there are, there's also plenty of situations where kids have been killed by their parents poorly stored guns. There's evidence for every argument you want to make.
Bottom line is you can't get shot if there's no guns.
Too late to keep them out of America. More work could be done to reduce them in places like the UK though.

Do you think everyone should have a gun?

No everyone shouldn’t have a gun just like everyone shouldn’t have a knife or a piece of wood or golf club etc

 

[kiwi pom]

No everyone shouldn’t have a gun just like everyone shouldn’t have a knife or a piece of wood or golf club etc

That's the bit that isn't talked about in the US, there is a percentage of the population very concerned about their right to guns but if you drill down into it, they don't mean everyone, they just mean them. OK, so now they have guns what about those who don't?
There was a bit of this in the recent "Trans" mass shooting. A small group of Trans people should arm themselves and stand up to the 'right wing gun nuts', was the suggestion, they posted pictures of themselves all Rambo'd up. Said gun nuts immediately hit back saying, bring it on you don't stand a chance. Very helpful.

So, if you don't arm everyone, who gets the guns?

 

[Muck Spreader]

No everyone shouldn’t have a gun just like everyone shouldn’t have a knife or a piece of wood or golf club etc

There in lies the problem, the very people have an unhealthy gun fetish are exactly the ones you wouldn't let near one.