Climate myths

[Interested in farming]

Reuters & ONS are what exactly ?

Reuters is a media outlet funded by a Billionaire who makes lots of money selling media to mostly the financial industry. ONS is a statistics outlet putting forward numbers.

I'll listen to the DNA Cancer expert who gave evidence to USA congress - at least is able to test the Vaccines whereas the other people haven't got a clue.

I've never had Covid to my knowledge & neither have my parents - but my father now has Myocarditis - I wish my family had never had them.

Sorry to hear that. I'm really glad we all had the vaccine I worked on the basis that while the vaccine like all vaccines can have side effects, the greater risk was from not taking it. Fully respect you disagree and will not change your position but I won't change mine either.

You can dismiss ONS and Reuters just as i can dismiss 'experts' on the other side - no matter what happens now neither side will change position that; why i put that stuff I randomly googled on there, to show you would refute it, not as a smoking gun. Then it gets heated. Life is too short Wanton, sun is shining and its a bank holiday.

I'm not going to tell you you are wrong or my views are better than yours and hope you can respect I'm an adult with a different take on this to you

 

[Cowabunga]

Sorry to hear that. I'm really glad we all had the vaccine I worked on the basis that while the vaccine like all vaccines can have side effects, the greater risk was from not taking it.

That was indeed the position initially. However things are not static and subsequent variants of the virus have become progressively less damaging and therefore the risk/benefit ratio of using the vaccines alters dynamically according to conditions at the time.

Fully respect you disagree and will not change your position but I won't change mine either.

You can dismiss ONS and Reuters just as i can dismiss 'experts' on the other side - no matter what happens now neither side will change position that; why i put that stuff I randomly googled on there, to show you would refute it, not as a smoking gun. Then it gets heated. Life is too short Wanton, sun is shining and its a bank holiday.

I'm not going to tell you you are wrong or my views are better than yours and hope you can respect I'm an adult with a different take on this to you

Like you, I have been fully vaccinated. However, last Autumn’s booster was missed by me as I used my own judgement to asses that the risk to benefit ratio had changed from earlier in the epidemic. It may well have changed in favour of not being vaccinated by the time I has my last vaccination but I could not assess the issue to my satisfaction at that time so I took it. Everyone will have their own view on this but some official advice, such as the vaccination of children late on, was particularly perplexing.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Small refresher on the Covid 19 propaganda

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1451807240659161090

 

[ollie989898]

This is when I first saw details about the contamination of Covid Vaccines & FFS grow up

That video is ages old.

It is also bilge. I'm surprised a man of your calibre couldn't be arshed to research the way it was all refuted given that is it months old now.

 

[Cowabunga]

That video is ages old.

It is also bilge. I'm surprised a man of your calibre couldn't be arshed to research the way it was all refuted given that is it months old now.

It’s certainly not bilge. Those were actual headlines at the time, starting off with 95 to 100% effective and safe down to later on some being withdrawn because they were dangerous and the efficacy and persistency being regularly downgraded to the point that whatever effectiveness they had was downgraded to three months or less persistency.

Show us in print how any of it was actually refuted factually.

 

[wanton dwarf]

That video is ages old.

It is also bilge. I'm surprised a man of your calibre couldn't be arshed to research the way it was all refuted given that is it months old now.

Did I say the video was new ? Try reading what people post rather than making up BS

The pretense I would for some unknown reason "Research" a video I saw last year ? WTF planet are you on ? Does that magically change the context of me seeing the issue brought to light ?

I will await the results of legal cases against Pfizer et al, whilst not wasting my time


From what I remember of the Covid "Vaccine" history the video is pretty spot on - doesn't stop you getting Covid, nor passing it on, vaccine which makes you ill, might kill you, might make you seriously ill & has the shortest "Vaccination" period I've ever seen - all for Virus which I've never had & if I did catch it might not even know

 

[wanton dwarf]

It’s certainly not bilge. Those were actual headlines at the time, starting off with 95 to 100% effective and safe down to later on some being withdrawn because they were dangerous and the efficacy and persistency being regularly downgraded to the point that whatever effectiveness they had was downgraded to three months or less persistency.

Show us in print how any of it was actually refuted factually.

Pfizer vaccine now has many pages listing side effects, serious illness & death may result - now states you should not work for I think 3 days or a week ?

Nobody was informed of the risks & for some they HAD to be vaccinated to work

 

[merino]

Pfizer vaccine now has many pages listing side effects, serious illness & death may result - now states you should not work for I think 3 days or a week ?

Nobody was informed of the risks & for some they HAD to be vaccinated to work

I've got to ask how do you choose what to believe?

I mean obviously facts don't enter into it.

Is everything that makes you feel bad untrue?

Or are you just so super special that you're better than facts?

 

[ollie989898]

I've got to ask how do you choose what to believe?

I mean obviously facts don't enter into it.

Is everything that makes you feel bad untrue?

Or are you just so super special that you're better than facts?

None of the anti-vaxx brigade here actually have a scoobies. They rely on youscoobe videos and accept them as gospel without having a genuine clue what is going on because they don't have the ability to actually work around what is being presented.

But what do you expect from people who simply believe covid was 'just a cold'.

It's not like they can event present any actual evidence. Their grasp of google and the cut and paste function doesn't extend that far. They won't submit a single study because they don't know what they are looking at or they are frightened I'll come along and discuss it. The whole thing is an utter waste of time.

 

[merino]

None of the anti-vaxx brigade here actually have a scoobies. They rely on youscoobe videos and accept them as gospel without having a genuine clue what is going on because they don't have the ability to actually work around what is being presented.

But what do you expect from people who simply believe covid was 'just a cold'.

It's not like they can event present any actual evidence. Their grasp of google and the cut and paste function doesn't extend that far. They won't submit a single study because they don't know what they are looking at or they are frightened I'll come along and discuss it. The whole thing is an utter waste of time.

They've gotten really bad lately.

 

[wanton dwarf]

I've got to ask how do you choose what to believe?

I mean obviously facts don't enter into it.

Is everything that makes you feel bad untrue?

Or are you just so super special that you're better than facts?

TBH I think you are a bit thick to come out with this BS - reality is what it is - I really don't care if you ignore it either.


Here's the NHS advice about Covid Vaccines

About COVID-19 vaccination, safety and side effects

Find out about COVID-19 vaccination, including the different types and the side effects and safety.

www.nhs.uk

Here's part of a health advisory from Pfizer themselves as part of authorisation of usage with 16 year olds - who obviously don't need vaccinating anyway

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine COMIRNATY® Receives Full U.S. FDA Approval for Individuals 16 Years and Older | Pfizer

COMIRNATY is the first COVID-19 vaccine to be granted FDA approval Approval is based on a comprehensive submission package including six-month efficacy and safety data after second dose More than 1.2 billion Pfizer-BioNTech doses have been delivered to more than 120 countries or territories...

www.pfizer.com

 

[wanton dwarf]

None of the anti-vaxx brigade here actually have a scoobies. They rely on youscoobe videos and accept them as gospel without having a genuine clue what is going on because they don't have the ability to actually work around what is being presented.

But what do you expect from people who simply believe covid was 'just a cold'.

It's not like they can event present any actual evidence. Their grasp of google and the cut and paste function doesn't extend that far. They won't submit a single study because they don't know what they are looking at or they are frightened I'll come along and discuss it. The whole thing is an utter waste of time.

Just posted more evidence from the NHS & Pfizer themselves - which came out YEARS ago - you know that one don't you ?

 

[wanton dwarf]

They've gotten really bad lately.

Funny how some people were warning about IDIOTS playing fast & loose with the health system - most vaccines take MANY years to come to fruition.

How many Billionaires have been created on the back of vaccinating BILLIONS of people with an unknown "medical" prototype who never needed it & some of which have been maimed & died.

 

[essex man]

Funny how some people were warning about IDIOTS playing fast & loose with the health system - most vaccines take MANY years to come to fruition.

How many Billionaires have been created on the back of vaccinating BILLIONS of people with an unknown "medical" prototype who never needed it & some of which have been maimed & died.

People took it and believed it safe because they were incentivised to do so.
Same reason they wore masks, stayed at home when told to.
It was and is a cold.
Claiming it's much milder now is just a useful ladder to climb down in ordsr to justify previous nonsensical behaviour.
Hundreds of people dying covid deaths per week still in the winter yet nothing much on the news any more.
There's nothing in it for people now.

 

[merino]

People took it and believed it safe because they were incentivised to do so.
Same reason they wore masks, stayed at home when told to.
It was and is a cold.
Claiming it's much milder now is just a useful ladder to climb down in ordsr to justify previous nonsensical behaviour.
Hundreds of people dying covid deaths per week still in the winter yet nothing much on the news any more.
There's nothing in it for people now.

Sir, this is a climate change thread.

 

[merino]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adk1189

That's a corker of a paper if anyone is interested.

It's flawed and wrong, and it admits it.

But it's also a fascinating insight into one of the more consequential and less understood parts of climate science.

 

[ollie989898]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adk1189

That's a corker of a paper if anyone is interested.

It's flawed and wrong, and it admits it.

But it's also a fascinating insight into one of the more consequential and less understood parts of climate science.

What's this, you're posting links of journal articles into threads?

That'll never catch on.

 

[essex man]

Sir, this is a climate change thread.

Yes, i was wondering why everyone talking about the covid vaccine.
Still, best you step in when i say something, not the previous 20 posts about it
Don't worry, i take it as a compliment on my answerable logic!

 

[essex man]

Sir, this is a climate change thread.

There are a lot of overlaps.
Same people buying nonsense narratives

 

[primmiemoo]

This is when I first saw details about the contamination of Covid Vaccines & FFS grow up

That scientist made a statement to say his words were twisted by anti-vaccine misinformationists.

You have been lied to by organised anti-vaccine disinformation campaigns.

Learn some of the basics about making and testing vaccines.