Weaving sabre tine user thread

[Flintstone]

Original one, but may be buying another one…! They’re superb drills.

 

[JCfarmer]

For now.......

 

[Sprayer 1]

What are these drills like in less than ideal conditions?

 

[Sprayer 1]

Oh, and would a 150hp tractor lift and work a 4 meter.

 

[matthewizod]

What are these drills like in less than ideal conditions?

We don’t drill in really wet conditions with ours, if it’s not dry in the top 2 inches, we have found we cut a slot rather than making any tilth. On our Cotswold brash soils it’s fine whatever the weather, clay is where we struggle.

Ran the vaderstad nz 24 hours infront this autumn to make some dry tilth and sabre has gone really well. Output is fantastic when conditions are right, worth waiting a few extra days to make sure it’s dry enough.

Wheat in to spring pea land, spring tine 24 hours before.

 

[Old apprentice]

We don’t drill in really wet conditions with ours, if it’s not dry in the top 2 inches, we have found we cut a slot rather than making any tilth. On our Cotswold brash soils it’s fine whatever the weather, clay is where we struggle.

Ran the vaderstad nz 24 hours infront this autumn to make some dry tilth and sabre has gone really well. Output is fantastic when conditions are right, worth waiting a few extra days to make sure it’s dry enough.

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Wheat in to spring pea land, spring tine 24 hours before.

That's a dream to drill into others have a lot different experienses.

 

[DieselRob]

What are these drills like in less than ideal conditions?

I’d say these drills will still be drilling when the vaddy and the combi are parked up in a direct in to stubble situation, in to ploughing or min till land they would likely make just as much mess but I only use mine to DD so can’t say too much on that. Oct 2020 I first demo’ed the sabre tine in to land that I wouldn’t have ploughed and combi drilled but the sabre made a perfect job and it went on to be 1 of the highest yielding wheat crops that harvest.

150hp should lift a plastic tank 4m and it would definitely pull it. I’ve got a steel tank 6m on a Deere 6215r

 

[snarling bee]

We have had a bit of straw wrap around the tines and block the seed tube but it was in some really wet long straw in a tramline . I will ask weavings about the longer tines .

Constant problem with this. Very frustrating. I think I may have to look at alternative makes of tine.
Covering harrow also a PITA.
Cultivated heavy ground that has gone very fine due to the wet weather.

 

[BTT UK Ltd]

Worth looking at our option.
Better wear and trash flow. Less slotting and more tilth. We will be at Midland Machinery Show and Crop Tec or give me a call. 07876 563514.

 

[YELROM]

Do you have any photos with the seed tube on

 

[BTT UK Ltd]

We use and can supply the same seed tube as Weaving. The tine has a hard wire at the rear that offers some protection to the seed tube.

 

[Wombat]

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We use and can supply the same seed tube as Weaving. The tine has a hard wire at the rear that offers some protection to the seed tube.

How much is the tine?

 

[BTT UK Ltd]

Tine, Tip (2 options 13mm or 19mm) and securing Nut and Bolt. £127 approx. One Tip will out last 3 standard tines. The tine will last 3 tip changes. Hope this makes sense.

 

[DieselRob]

I’m currently running 8 bourgault 12mm tines behind the tractor wheels as a trial, the rest of the drill is on weaving tines, I’ll put some photos up later showing wear (on the Weaving’s) and lack of wear on the BTT. The problem I’m going to have is the weaving tines are going to keep wearing so I’ll have to set the drill deeper which means the 8 tubes behind the wheels will end up too deep

 

[clbarclay]

Spread those 8 tines amongst the standard saber tines so deep seed rows are less likely to stand out like narrow skylark landing strips?

 

[DieselRob]

Good idea but I’ll cross that bridge when it comes to it if it causes issues, I liked the idea of putting them behind the wheels as that’s where the most wear is. Raising the seed tubes up on the leg might also be an option

 

[Flintstone]

You could always temporarily change the angle of the legs with the Bourgault tips with the two bolts that attach the legs to the bracket. You could angle them back, which would shallow them up at the same time, until you buy a whole set of Bourgaults, and then return them to the standard position.

I’ve been running the APM tines, with the integrated seed tube. They’re really impressive. I reckon they last twice as long as the Weaving ones.

 

[BTT UK Ltd]

You could always temporarily change the angle of the legs with the Bourgault tips with the two bolts that attach the legs to the bracket. You could angle them back, which would shallow them up at the same time, until you buy a whole set of Bourgaults, and then return them to the standard position.

I’ve been running the APM tines, with the integrated seed tube. They’re really impressive. I reckon they last twice as long as the Weaving ones.

The only downside to the APM and others is that you still throw away a lot of un worn steel. This is why we went down the replaceable tip option.

 

[clbarclay]

How deep do people tend to run the tines and what range of does the seed get placed behind them?

 

[Flintstone]

I find if there’s about two and a half inches of ‘shine’ on the base of the tine, that this puts the seed in at a pretty consistent 2 inches.

Direct into stubbles, the seed depth consistency is brilliant. On cultivated ground it can vary by a cm, but still very good.