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A question for Brexit hating Guardian readers or any other Remainers
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<blockquote data-quote="Old McDonald" data-source="post: 4907932" data-attributes="member: 47276"><p>I concur that Parliamentary Sovereignty is part of the British Constitution. I spent more than a few years in my younger days studying such matters - successfully. </p><p></p><p>The referendum <strong>may </strong>only have been advisory, but there are many practising UK lawyers who would disagree with that. See this link</p><p><a href="http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/referendum-binding.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/referendum-binding.shtml</a></p><p></p><p>A small extract from it is:</p><p></p><p><em>First, the Conservative General Election Manifesto of 2015 promised a referendum on membership of the EU in the following terms:</em></p><p><em>“We believe in <strong>letting the people decide</strong>: so we will hold an in-out referendum on our membership of the EU before the end of 2017.”It should be noted that the election promise was to “<strong>let the people decide</strong>”. It was not a promise to hold an advisory referendum, with the final decision being left to Parliament. Nor was there any mention of minimum thresholds of percentage of vote or of turnout before the referendum would be binding. Therefore the British people were given a politically and constitutionally binding promise in the election manifesto of the successful party that they would be given the final and deciding say in a referendum in which the majority would prevail</em>.</p><p></p><p>How about this one:</p><p><a href="https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-warns-brexit-campaigners-they-must-accept-eu-referendum-result-a3263046.html" target="_blank">https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-warns-brexit-campaigners-they-must-accept-eu-referendum-result-a3263046.html</a> </p><p></p><p>and this </p><p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-david-cameron-warns-warring-tory-colleagues-to-accept-the-result-of-eu-a7094726.html" target="_blank">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-david-cameron-warns-warring-tory-colleagues-to-accept-the-result-of-eu-a7094726.html</a></p><p></p><p>I particularly liked the then PM's statement on the result:</p><p> </p><p>HANSARD</p><p>27 June 2016</p><p>Volume 612 3.31 pm</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong><a href="https://hansard.parliament.uk/search/MemberContributions?house=Commons&memberId=1467" target="_blank">The Prime Minister (Mr David Cameron)</a></strong></span><br /> <br /> With permission, Mr Speaker, I will make a statement on the result of the EU referendum.<br /> <br /> Last week saw one of the biggest democratic exercises in our history, with more than 33 million people from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar all having their say. We should be proud of our parliamentary democracy, but it is right that, when we consider questions of this magnitude, we do not just leave it to politicians but listen directly to the people. That is why Members on both sides of the House voted for a referendum by a margin of six to one.<br /> </li> </ul><p></p><p>The quyestion remains to you - What are you prepared to do "within the rules" to overturn the result of the ballot?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Old McDonald, post: 4907932, member: 47276"] I concur that Parliamentary Sovereignty is part of the British Constitution. I spent more than a few years in my younger days studying such matters - successfully. The referendum [B]may [/B]only have been advisory, but there are many practising UK lawyers who would disagree with that. See this link [URL]http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/referendum-binding.shtml[/URL] A small extract from it is: [I]First, the Conservative General Election Manifesto of 2015 promised a referendum on membership of the EU in the following terms: “We believe in [B]letting the people decide[/B]: so we will hold an in-out referendum on our membership of the EU before the end of 2017.”It should be noted that the election promise was to “[B]let the people decide[/B]”. It was not a promise to hold an advisory referendum, with the final decision being left to Parliament. Nor was there any mention of minimum thresholds of percentage of vote or of turnout before the referendum would be binding. Therefore the British people were given a politically and constitutionally binding promise in the election manifesto of the successful party that they would be given the final and deciding say in a referendum in which the majority would prevail[/I]. How about this one: [URL]https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-warns-brexit-campaigners-they-must-accept-eu-referendum-result-a3263046.html[/URL] and this [URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-david-cameron-warns-warring-tory-colleagues-to-accept-the-result-of-eu-a7094726.html[/URL] I particularly liked the then PM's statement on the result: HANSARD 27 June 2016 Volume 612 3.31 pm [LIST] [*][SIZE=5][B][URL='https://hansard.parliament.uk/search/MemberContributions?house=Commons&memberId=1467']The Prime Minister (Mr David Cameron)[/URL][/B][/SIZE] With permission, Mr Speaker, I will make a statement on the result of the EU referendum. Last week saw one of the biggest democratic exercises in our history, with more than 33 million people from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar all having their say. We should be proud of our parliamentary democracy, but it is right that, when we consider questions of this magnitude, we do not just leave it to politicians but listen directly to the people. That is why Members on both sides of the House voted for a referendum by a margin of six to one. [/LIST] The quyestion remains to you - What are you prepared to do "within the rules" to overturn the result of the ballot? [/QUOTE]
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