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<blockquote data-quote="Flatland guy" data-source="post: 9168702" data-attributes="member: 6717"><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">It is getting to the stage where the likes of AHDB, RT, AIC etc. are having back room meetings about being found out and they are sharing out the costs of reviews/study into farm assurance between their different entities but they all want reviews/study to say farm assurance is marvellous etc and much needed.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">When the AHDB are asking for study but are effectively mentioning an outcome they would like, you can tell it is not impartial. If you want an impartial study you give them all access and never mention an outcome at all to avoid any bias/prejudice and leave the auditors effectively time to make an informed independent decision. Just imagine if a plant breeder asked AHDB to evaluate a variety but steer them towards an outcome before any analysis/ research is done.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Regarding cost of study, I would say nowhere near unless the AHDB are effectively hand picking the documents it want the study to be based on and basically all it is asking is for a report on their chosen documents etc which is then seen to be impartial blah, blah ,blah. Certain people have been trawling AHDB and other organisations for documents and at minimum wage would expect to have taken many, many hours, if they all costed their time would be well over 40K I bet.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Regarding AHDB and levy, AHDB really only receives levy from merchants, abattoirs, livestock markets and processors effectively all of the above collect it from farmers to forward onto AHDB. They probably pay monthly and as far as AHDB only view them as customers, ignoring the fact that the farmer/ grower/.producer makes up the most of their budget!! I have asked to see if AHDB can tell me what levy I paid within the last 12 months but not got any response, which is telling. So I cannot see if the various merchants/abattoirs/livestock markets have deducted my levies but kept them for themselves to ensure total transparency for fraud etc. None of the income for AHDB is cash I bet so obviously there are paper records, electronic documents/ transactions for all levy income but not apportioned to which business/person correctly. Personally I believe AHDB should invoice me(business) directly either I can be trusted to pay when i say xxx grain or sell so many animals or the buyers reports to AHDB that they have bought xxx and forward your details for AHDB to invoice your business etc. only then would they know who pays the levy and who can access certain information and not give valuable research away to non levy payers.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flatland guy, post: 9168702, member: 6717"] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]It is getting to the stage where the likes of AHDB, RT, AIC etc. are having back room meetings about being found out and they are sharing out the costs of reviews/study into farm assurance between their different entities but they all want reviews/study to say farm assurance is marvellous etc and much needed. When the AHDB are asking for study but are effectively mentioning an outcome they would like, you can tell it is not impartial. If you want an impartial study you give them all access and never mention an outcome at all to avoid any bias/prejudice and leave the auditors effectively time to make an informed independent decision. Just imagine if a plant breeder asked AHDB to evaluate a variety but steer them towards an outcome before any analysis/ research is done. Regarding cost of study, I would say nowhere near unless the AHDB are effectively hand picking the documents it want the study to be based on and basically all it is asking is for a report on their chosen documents etc which is then seen to be impartial blah, blah ,blah. Certain people have been trawling AHDB and other organisations for documents and at minimum wage would expect to have taken many, many hours, if they all costed their time would be well over 40K I bet. Regarding AHDB and levy, AHDB really only receives levy from merchants, abattoirs, livestock markets and processors effectively all of the above collect it from farmers to forward onto AHDB. They probably pay monthly and as far as AHDB only view them as customers, ignoring the fact that the farmer/ grower/.producer makes up the most of their budget!! I have asked to see if AHDB can tell me what levy I paid within the last 12 months but not got any response, which is telling. So I cannot see if the various merchants/abattoirs/livestock markets have deducted my levies but kept them for themselves to ensure total transparency for fraud etc. None of the income for AHDB is cash I bet so obviously there are paper records, electronic documents/ transactions for all levy income but not apportioned to which business/person correctly. Personally I believe AHDB should invoice me(business) directly either I can be trusted to pay when i say xxx grain or sell so many animals or the buyers reports to AHDB that they have bought xxx and forward your details for AHDB to invoice your business etc. only then would they know who pays the levy and who can access certain information and not give valuable research away to non levy payers.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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