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<blockquote data-quote="ollie989898" data-source="post: 8974309" data-attributes="member: 54866"><p>As with other metal ions or salts there are significant fluxes of aluminium into and out of the body due to a number of mechanisms. The bulk of these will be through direct ingestion in our food and water as they are essentially naturally occurring (the Earth's crust is littered with aluminium compounds, the same is also true of iron with countless other elements not far behind that). The bulk of this is also passed out in the faeces- back into the environment from whence it came.</p><p></p><p>There certainly was historical discussion that aluminium was involved in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease and also more recently some discussion regarding the use of aluminium salts in antiperspirant being linked to breast cancer. In both cases there has also been research done where no association was found and so the best guess is that at the present time it remains inconclusive- or basically that was the state of play last time I looked.</p><p></p><p>I haven't read much about either of these issues for quite some time but no doubt there is more research popping up as time passes. However, you can be certain some heavy-weight animal testing has been done on these and similar compounds which is where knowledge of their genuine toxicity stems from. You can research it yourself but the kind of exposures involved in many of the LD50 type tests will likely be several orders of magnitude any human could practically be exposed to in any reasonable time frame. This kind of research seems less popular today- I guess back in the less enlightened times of science one could better argue that feeding rats etc ever increasing quantities of heavy metals etc to find out how toxic they were was an easier case to make, it's also not impossible some of the research was done in the context of the Cold war and so research looking for obvious toxins was more generally palatable at the time.</p><p></p><p>Aluminium compounds have been used as vaccine adjuvants for a very long time and like thimerosal, have been the centre of much anti-vaccine sentiment. Unfortunately for the anti-vaxx movement, there has been no slam-dunk evidence turned over that supports their beliefs. The vast majority of science is not black and white but rather grey, difficult to understand and far less spectacular than the layperson would desire. As with the search for amazingly potent cures for diseases, it stands to reason that if a compound is extremely potent, effective, toxic, deadly or carcinogenic it should logically be extremely easy to demonstrate this experimentally and generate a huge body of research to prove it. Instead it appears that biology remains a vast, complex and as yet only partly explored realm of science with easy answers being the exception rather than the rule.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ollie989898, post: 8974309, member: 54866"] As with other metal ions or salts there are significant fluxes of aluminium into and out of the body due to a number of mechanisms. The bulk of these will be through direct ingestion in our food and water as they are essentially naturally occurring (the Earth's crust is littered with aluminium compounds, the same is also true of iron with countless other elements not far behind that). The bulk of this is also passed out in the faeces- back into the environment from whence it came. There certainly was historical discussion that aluminium was involved in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease and also more recently some discussion regarding the use of aluminium salts in antiperspirant being linked to breast cancer. In both cases there has also been research done where no association was found and so the best guess is that at the present time it remains inconclusive- or basically that was the state of play last time I looked. I haven't read much about either of these issues for quite some time but no doubt there is more research popping up as time passes. However, you can be certain some heavy-weight animal testing has been done on these and similar compounds which is where knowledge of their genuine toxicity stems from. You can research it yourself but the kind of exposures involved in many of the LD50 type tests will likely be several orders of magnitude any human could practically be exposed to in any reasonable time frame. This kind of research seems less popular today- I guess back in the less enlightened times of science one could better argue that feeding rats etc ever increasing quantities of heavy metals etc to find out how toxic they were was an easier case to make, it's also not impossible some of the research was done in the context of the Cold war and so research looking for obvious toxins was more generally palatable at the time. Aluminium compounds have been used as vaccine adjuvants for a very long time and like thimerosal, have been the centre of much anti-vaccine sentiment. Unfortunately for the anti-vaxx movement, there has been no slam-dunk evidence turned over that supports their beliefs. The vast majority of science is not black and white but rather grey, difficult to understand and far less spectacular than the layperson would desire. As with the search for amazingly potent cures for diseases, it stands to reason that if a compound is extremely potent, effective, toxic, deadly or carcinogenic it should logically be extremely easy to demonstrate this experimentally and generate a huge body of research to prove it. Instead it appears that biology remains a vast, complex and as yet only partly explored realm of science with easy answers being the exception rather than the rule. [/QUOTE]
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