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Badly behaved Dairy bull?
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<blockquote data-quote="Treemover" data-source="post: 7011797" data-attributes="member: 217"><p>Im confused. I don't understand how show bulls are so placid. Some are hand rared, some are not. My neighbour had a wicked Belgian blue. He sold it to a local AI station, and within 6 months, this bull was a show bull? </p><p>I worked on a farm with Fleckvieh bulls. The ones that came in from Austria which were hand rared were easy going... but I never trusted them.</p><p></p><p>We have some really wicked bulls on our farm, and I think its all about facilities. If you don't have the facilities, you run a risk. </p><p></p><p>With regards ringing a bull, that farm I worked on used to ring bulls most weeks. I always wanted to see it or take part to learn, but one day I was working within 30ft, and the guy doing it, ringed 3 bulls, and not even a roar. He did it on his own, with just a halter. </p><p></p><p>I heard horror stories of lads pinning bulls with back actors and then ringing them. </p><p></p><p>A freshly calved cow once charged my son, and to this day, it haunts me. He got away with only a scratch, but it thought me to never think 'ah sure it will be fine'. </p><p></p><p>A fella that rears lots of bulls told me that to manage a bull, you have to display dominance. SHow the bull, your in charge. Our last wicked fella we had, if he acted the maggot, Id run him up the crush and put a long rope on him, ie 20ft. Leave him get used to it, if he got quiet after a few days, bring him back and change it for a shorter one. This worked, and if he went off, back in and long one again. The ropes would often come out and have to be replaced, but, I had to stay at it and show dominance. Then my father would intervene and remove the rope or shorten it, and then Id be told the bull is mad again. Funny thing, if I walked in to the shed, this bull would go the other end. Anyone else, hed come up and paw the ground and roar. </p><p>I don't think a cross bull has any place out in a field, where people have to run the gauntlet twice a day. But I don't think culling every cross bull is the answer either. Id rather an excellent handling setup that eliminates any chance of close contact with the bull. I have also found the better the breeding, (in dairy bulls) the more wicked they are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treemover, post: 7011797, member: 217"] Im confused. I don't understand how show bulls are so placid. Some are hand rared, some are not. My neighbour had a wicked Belgian blue. He sold it to a local AI station, and within 6 months, this bull was a show bull? I worked on a farm with Fleckvieh bulls. The ones that came in from Austria which were hand rared were easy going... but I never trusted them. We have some really wicked bulls on our farm, and I think its all about facilities. If you don't have the facilities, you run a risk. With regards ringing a bull, that farm I worked on used to ring bulls most weeks. I always wanted to see it or take part to learn, but one day I was working within 30ft, and the guy doing it, ringed 3 bulls, and not even a roar. He did it on his own, with just a halter. I heard horror stories of lads pinning bulls with back actors and then ringing them. A freshly calved cow once charged my son, and to this day, it haunts me. He got away with only a scratch, but it thought me to never think 'ah sure it will be fine'. A fella that rears lots of bulls told me that to manage a bull, you have to display dominance. SHow the bull, your in charge. Our last wicked fella we had, if he acted the maggot, Id run him up the crush and put a long rope on him, ie 20ft. Leave him get used to it, if he got quiet after a few days, bring him back and change it for a shorter one. This worked, and if he went off, back in and long one again. The ropes would often come out and have to be replaced, but, I had to stay at it and show dominance. Then my father would intervene and remove the rope or shorten it, and then Id be told the bull is mad again. Funny thing, if I walked in to the shed, this bull would go the other end. Anyone else, hed come up and paw the ground and roar. I don't think a cross bull has any place out in a field, where people have to run the gauntlet twice a day. But I don't think culling every cross bull is the answer either. Id rather an excellent handling setup that eliminates any chance of close contact with the bull. I have also found the better the breeding, (in dairy bulls) the more wicked they are. [/QUOTE]
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