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<blockquote data-quote="ollie989898" data-source="post: 7821613" data-attributes="member: 54866"><p>Why the heck should fertiliser plants be nationalised? You think the government can magically buy gas cheaper than private business? Run the plants at a subsidised loss? We know where that ends up.</p><p></p><p>More to the point, why should the market-collectively speaking- give a fudge if the price does quadruple? Farmers will use less of it. They will harvest less grass or grain. I'm not being deliberately and obliquely facetious here but we can all see that this is going to lead to a shortage of actual farmgate commodity in the coming months. The supply will reduce and unless demand drops drastically, the price is going to have to go up or folk just won't bother. But it's not like farmers made an absolute killing when fertiliser was cheap, did they? They got their bit of margin and that was that. People here can no doubt remember times when fertiliser and dairy cake was £100/tonne. I personally can remember seeing hipro soya at £220/tonne at the docks and rapemeal was about £130/tonne. I think I can remember buying a fair few tonnes of British sugarbeet at about £118/tonne as well. I don't think any one made any more or any less money at the time mind. The stuff was bought, margin was added and that was that.</p><p></p><p>And you and I both know that the price of fertiliser, even if fully accounted for and added to the cost of every egg, every litre and every lamb chop sold, would never be noticed by the consumer because it will be a <em>tiny sliver</em> of a fraction of the retail price of the stuff.</p><p></p><p>The population of this forum have seen grain prices at £60/tonne. They've farmed through BSE, Foot and mouth, that bint talking nonsense about salmonella in eggs- you name it. A rise in fertiliser and other inputs is just one next bump in the road. No matter what happens someone is going to be out there trying to buy your milk, your grain or your turkey. Twas ever thus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ollie989898, post: 7821613, member: 54866"] Why the heck should fertiliser plants be nationalised? You think the government can magically buy gas cheaper than private business? Run the plants at a subsidised loss? We know where that ends up. More to the point, why should the market-collectively speaking- give a fudge if the price does quadruple? Farmers will use less of it. They will harvest less grass or grain. I'm not being deliberately and obliquely facetious here but we can all see that this is going to lead to a shortage of actual farmgate commodity in the coming months. The supply will reduce and unless demand drops drastically, the price is going to have to go up or folk just won't bother. But it's not like farmers made an absolute killing when fertiliser was cheap, did they? They got their bit of margin and that was that. People here can no doubt remember times when fertiliser and dairy cake was £100/tonne. I personally can remember seeing hipro soya at £220/tonne at the docks and rapemeal was about £130/tonne. I think I can remember buying a fair few tonnes of British sugarbeet at about £118/tonne as well. I don't think any one made any more or any less money at the time mind. The stuff was bought, margin was added and that was that. And you and I both know that the price of fertiliser, even if fully accounted for and added to the cost of every egg, every litre and every lamb chop sold, would never be noticed by the consumer because it will be a [I]tiny sliver[/I] of a fraction of the retail price of the stuff. The population of this forum have seen grain prices at £60/tonne. They've farmed through BSE, Foot and mouth, that bint talking nonsense about salmonella in eggs- you name it. A rise in fertiliser and other inputs is just one next bump in the road. No matter what happens someone is going to be out there trying to buy your milk, your grain or your turkey. Twas ever thus. [/QUOTE]
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