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<blockquote data-quote="Goweresque" data-source="post: 6561401" data-attributes="member: 818"><p>So why do you want the entitlements at all then, if you don't want to claim the 'free money' that farm subsidies are? And if you don't want nothing for nothing, why do you want the seller to include an asset in the sale that has an open market value for free? If he had a tractor parked in the barn would you expect him to throw that in for free as well? After all you're buying the farm, the tractor works on the farm, why shouldn't you have it for free too?</p><p></p><p>You seem to be incapable of understanding that the entitlement to subsidy is in no way connected to any piece of land. Its free to be used on any farm in the country, just the like the tractor is. You just up sticks and take it with you. Entitlements are as much a mobile asset of a farming business as machinery and livestock are. They are not some sort of 'fixtures and fittings' that naturally go with a specific bit of land, such as gates or fences, they are entirely separate, and as such if you want them you'll have to buy them, like any other business asset.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whether £16k/acre is a stiff price or not depends entirely on the amount of land you're buying, and where it is. If its 1000 acres then yes, thats pretty stiff. If it was 100 then it's still pretty steep, but also might not be if it was in a very favourable location. If its 20 or 30 acres then no, £16k isn't out of the way, especially if its anywhere near urban areas then i'd say its about right. If its 5 or 10 acres then its probably cheap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goweresque, post: 6561401, member: 818"] So why do you want the entitlements at all then, if you don't want to claim the 'free money' that farm subsidies are? And if you don't want nothing for nothing, why do you want the seller to include an asset in the sale that has an open market value for free? If he had a tractor parked in the barn would you expect him to throw that in for free as well? After all you're buying the farm, the tractor works on the farm, why shouldn't you have it for free too? You seem to be incapable of understanding that the entitlement to subsidy is in no way connected to any piece of land. Its free to be used on any farm in the country, just the like the tractor is. You just up sticks and take it with you. Entitlements are as much a mobile asset of a farming business as machinery and livestock are. They are not some sort of 'fixtures and fittings' that naturally go with a specific bit of land, such as gates or fences, they are entirely separate, and as such if you want them you'll have to buy them, like any other business asset. Whether £16k/acre is a stiff price or not depends entirely on the amount of land you're buying, and where it is. If its 1000 acres then yes, thats pretty stiff. If it was 100 then it's still pretty steep, but also might not be if it was in a very favourable location. If its 20 or 30 acres then no, £16k isn't out of the way, especially if its anywhere near urban areas then i'd say its about right. If its 5 or 10 acres then its probably cheap. [/QUOTE]
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