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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 6468478" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>I'm sure you mean that in a nice way, but this is nothing to do with nostalgia for empire. </p><p></p><p>It's a statement of fact that we're a maritime and trading nation, historically and now, it's therefore manifestly obvious that we need to protect our shipping. The RN was run down after the Cold War as part of the 'peace-dividend', and this plus complacency (and a fair amount of political dishonesty and cowardice too) has meant the paring down of the RN to a now absurdly low level.</p><p></p><p>The ROI as it is now constituted has a different perspective due to its history, national philosophy and size - remember it's economy is well under half the size of London's - and I mean that in a nice way - so it has entirely different aspirations and expectations. Also the ROI has, rightly or wrongly, decided that it wants to tag along with Europe; fair enough, but this in itself requires following the 'European' way in many things. In the instance of international security, that means letting others bear the burden as far as possible; we don't politically choose to and don't economically have to do that.</p><p></p><p>We have a different outlook for different reasons, and it is not unreasonable for us to expect our shipping to be properly policed and protected when we can well afford to do so. This is not an 'imperial' venture, it's what Norway, Malaysia, India and most other nations do. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 6468478, member: 8735"] I'm sure you mean that in a nice way, but this is nothing to do with nostalgia for empire. It's a statement of fact that we're a maritime and trading nation, historically and now, it's therefore manifestly obvious that we need to protect our shipping. The RN was run down after the Cold War as part of the 'peace-dividend', and this plus complacency (and a fair amount of political dishonesty and cowardice too) has meant the paring down of the RN to a now absurdly low level. The ROI as it is now constituted has a different perspective due to its history, national philosophy and size - remember it's economy is well under half the size of London's - and I mean that in a nice way - so it has entirely different aspirations and expectations. Also the ROI has, rightly or wrongly, decided that it wants to tag along with Europe; fair enough, but this in itself requires following the 'European' way in many things. In the instance of international security, that means letting others bear the burden as far as possible; we don't politically choose to and don't economically have to do that. We have a different outlook for different reasons, and it is not unreasonable for us to expect our shipping to be properly policed and protected when we can well afford to do so. This is not an 'imperial' venture, it's what Norway, Malaysia, India and most other nations do. (y) [/QUOTE]
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