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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 7366688" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>spot-on, but it is that shape most of us want to get, on a hol, ideal, but we don't associate it with xbreeding, where we all know the first cross is the best, because both breeds are black and white, and described as hf. Nothing wrong with that at all, but the hol replaced the fr, because it offered a better cow, as with many other breeds, fr declined in numbers, and some breeders may well have gone for show cows. But now things are changing, the hol, for many. has gone to extreme, and we are looking for change. Xbreeding offers a choice, 1st x are usually brilliant, but the 2nd x is where the questions start, and there are so many, 3 or 4 way crosses out there, it would be much easier to have 1 good solid breed, that fits the requirement, and fr is the obvious solution. The 'ideal' cow is somewhere between the hol and the fr, and i suspect the hol breeders will produce will produce that 'type', they have a vast gene pool to select from.</p><p>just read the 2 posts above, sums the fr breed tendencies quite well, we had some pure pedigree fr, bought as bullers, they failed to impress, for the above reasons, and were sold i/c, for what we thought an amazing profit. The question still remains, why don't they publish the vital statistics of genomic fr bulls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 7366688, member: 86168"] spot-on, but it is that shape most of us want to get, on a hol, ideal, but we don't associate it with xbreeding, where we all know the first cross is the best, because both breeds are black and white, and described as hf. Nothing wrong with that at all, but the hol replaced the fr, because it offered a better cow, as with many other breeds, fr declined in numbers, and some breeders may well have gone for show cows. But now things are changing, the hol, for many. has gone to extreme, and we are looking for change. Xbreeding offers a choice, 1st x are usually brilliant, but the 2nd x is where the questions start, and there are so many, 3 or 4 way crosses out there, it would be much easier to have 1 good solid breed, that fits the requirement, and fr is the obvious solution. The 'ideal' cow is somewhere between the hol and the fr, and i suspect the hol breeders will produce will produce that 'type', they have a vast gene pool to select from. just read the 2 posts above, sums the fr breed tendencies quite well, we had some pure pedigree fr, bought as bullers, they failed to impress, for the above reasons, and were sold i/c, for what we thought an amazing profit. The question still remains, why don't they publish the vital statistics of genomic fr bulls. [/QUOTE]
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