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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 7030381" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>You live in a pseudo-democracy, and most there don't know it. Dictatorships work when they work, when they don't the only remedy is a revolution. Democracy wins every time when it's a genuine one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree in part. But China is a danger to all; even Russia, which revels in the difficulties China makes for others, has grave concerns due to its hugely populated neighbour. China will not begin any aggression it is not absolutely certain it will win, dictatorships don't suffer defeats and survive.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The only problem with all that is that it's wrong. The democracies stick together when push comes to shove, Putin is dancing on a knife edge - and everyone knows this - and only stays in power in Russia with the threat of bullets.</p><p></p><p>Surely you can't really be suggesting that Oz and NZ should get in to bed with an overwhelmingly larger economic block that will also seek to suborn their democracies, where on Earth can a good Irishman have got an idea like that? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite26" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>All true, but watch Huawei start to be rejected globally and others manufacture the necessary. We and others in the West will expand production, there are many counties in the East - Vietnam, Thailand, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan etc.* - all have the ability and capacity to increase production. Most probably we'll see big innovation investment by the wealthier West, followed by production in the East. </p><p></p><p></p><p>*all more than happy to see China reined in and make a profit in so doing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 7030381, member: 8735"] You live in a pseudo-democracy, and most there don't know it. Dictatorships work when they work, when they don't the only remedy is a revolution. Democracy wins every time when it's a genuine one. I agree in part. But China is a danger to all; even Russia, which revels in the difficulties China makes for others, has grave concerns due to its hugely populated neighbour. China will not begin any aggression it is not absolutely certain it will win, dictatorships don't suffer defeats and survive. The only problem with all that is that it's wrong. The democracies stick together when push comes to shove, Putin is dancing on a knife edge - and everyone knows this - and only stays in power in Russia with the threat of bullets. Surely you can't really be suggesting that Oz and NZ should get in to bed with an overwhelmingly larger economic block that will also seek to suborn their democracies, where on Earth can a good Irishman have got an idea like that? :unsure: All true, but watch Huawei start to be rejected globally and others manufacture the necessary. We and others in the West will expand production, there are many counties in the East - Vietnam, Thailand, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan etc.* - all have the ability and capacity to increase production. Most probably we'll see big innovation investment by the wealthier West, followed by production in the East. *all more than happy to see China reined in and make a profit in so doing. [/QUOTE]
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