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<blockquote data-quote="Robin1966" data-source="post: 6741167" data-attributes="member: 65076"><p>Some are, most aren't. James Hansen, an American climate scientist from NASA who warned of the potential threats from runaway climate change, definitely is. Michael Mann, also American, the scientist who produced the 'hockey stick' graph, had to become political after he was targeted by the 'climategate' nonsense in which he had to take one particular critic to court - a case he won by the way. There is a 'Scientists for XR' (XR - Extinction Rebellion) account on Twitter and I know of at least one climate scientist from Bristol University who is actively taking part in XR actions. Most other climate scientists, such as Katharine Hayhoe and Dr Jo House, only intervene in political discussions when false information and climate change denial is being banded about.</p><p></p><p>Your statement about climate models is mostly false. In the early days, climate models were indeed unreliable to an extent, but most of them have now been refined and optimised to such an extent that they are generally accurate in their modelling and predictions.</p><p></p><p>Your final paragraph is also false, because all scientists indulge in checking, and critiquing where appropriate, other scientists papers and findings. This is what keeps the whole dialogue moving forward in a reliable manner.</p><p></p><p>I somehow suspect the best people to tell us both how climate science works are climate scientists, not farmers and not journalists. That is why I pay attention to what they say, just as I would pay attention to what you say when you are talking about farming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Robin1966, post: 6741167, member: 65076"] Some are, most aren't. James Hansen, an American climate scientist from NASA who warned of the potential threats from runaway climate change, definitely is. Michael Mann, also American, the scientist who produced the 'hockey stick' graph, had to become political after he was targeted by the 'climategate' nonsense in which he had to take one particular critic to court - a case he won by the way. There is a 'Scientists for XR' (XR - Extinction Rebellion) account on Twitter and I know of at least one climate scientist from Bristol University who is actively taking part in XR actions. Most other climate scientists, such as Katharine Hayhoe and Dr Jo House, only intervene in political discussions when false information and climate change denial is being banded about. Your statement about climate models is mostly false. In the early days, climate models were indeed unreliable to an extent, but most of them have now been refined and optimised to such an extent that they are generally accurate in their modelling and predictions. Your final paragraph is also false, because all scientists indulge in checking, and critiquing where appropriate, other scientists papers and findings. This is what keeps the whole dialogue moving forward in a reliable manner. I somehow suspect the best people to tell us both how climate science works are climate scientists, not farmers and not journalists. That is why I pay attention to what they say, just as I would pay attention to what you say when you are talking about farming. [/QUOTE]
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