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<blockquote data-quote="gmgmgm" data-source="post: 7211799" data-attributes="member: 87102"><p>Both PHEV style and EV style are good, but they are designed for different use cases.</p><p></p><p>The Outlander PHEV is designed for people who can plug in easily, do smaller mileages each day, and also want the capability to do long journeys when necessary. e.g. 40 miles per day (2 charges) could be wholly on electric, but then it's also possible to drive down to the south of France with momentary petrol refuelling stops. Your Nissan Leaf isn't designed to do that. Your Leaf has a battery about 4x the size of the PHEV's, but when it's empty, you're stuck. Ideal if your daily mileage is say always under 100 miles. Always. (Or you have a spare diesel/petrol car for long journeys).</p><p></p><p>Heating the cabin of any car uses an extraordinary amount of energy. You will notice even your Leaf's battery reduces faster if you turn up the temperature inside. Hence if in the PHEV you turn up the temperature, the car will decide whether to use battery power, or generate some more by running the engine as a generator. As with all EVs, if the battery is cold, it's harder to get energy out of it, so on a cold morning the engine/generator may be the best choice.</p><p></p><p>This is why the PHEV (and likely all EVs) have a preheat option, so it can be set on a timer to always warm up the car at a certain time, or by buttons from a linked mobile phone. Ours for example is set to always preheat the car on school mornings. Heating from the mains power is much better cheaper than using the battery or petrol.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully rollestonpark, this helps explain why PHEV cars work for so many people, as your pure EV works for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gmgmgm, post: 7211799, member: 87102"] Both PHEV style and EV style are good, but they are designed for different use cases. The Outlander PHEV is designed for people who can plug in easily, do smaller mileages each day, and also want the capability to do long journeys when necessary. e.g. 40 miles per day (2 charges) could be wholly on electric, but then it's also possible to drive down to the south of France with momentary petrol refuelling stops. Your Nissan Leaf isn't designed to do that. Your Leaf has a battery about 4x the size of the PHEV's, but when it's empty, you're stuck. Ideal if your daily mileage is say always under 100 miles. Always. (Or you have a spare diesel/petrol car for long journeys). Heating the cabin of any car uses an extraordinary amount of energy. You will notice even your Leaf's battery reduces faster if you turn up the temperature inside. Hence if in the PHEV you turn up the temperature, the car will decide whether to use battery power, or generate some more by running the engine as a generator. As with all EVs, if the battery is cold, it's harder to get energy out of it, so on a cold morning the engine/generator may be the best choice. This is why the PHEV (and likely all EVs) have a preheat option, so it can be set on a timer to always warm up the car at a certain time, or by buttons from a linked mobile phone. Ours for example is set to always preheat the car on school mornings. Heating from the mains power is much better cheaper than using the battery or petrol. Hopefully rollestonpark, this helps explain why PHEV cars work for so many people, as your pure EV works for you. [/QUOTE]
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