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EU vaccine role out.
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<blockquote data-quote="le bon paysan" data-source="post: 7380376" data-attributes="member: 104"><p>Firstly , EU money helped upgrade the AZ facility in the UK. UvdL saying companies must fulfil their contracts is completely fair. </p><p>Should they completely fulfil one contract and not supply another or scale back pro rata on a number of contracts?</p><p></p><p>Brexit has nothing to do with this. But typical that you wanted third country status and now want special treatment. I posted a link that showed Frost didn't ask for many of the things you now want. You obviously didn't read it or chose to believe the liar Johnson. We shouldn't convolute the two subjects and am quite happy to continue arguing , over in a Brexit thread rather than spoil this one. It's up to you.</p><p></p><p>As for the AZ being unsuitable for over 65s, two points.</p><p>1, the original reporting of 8% efficacy in the over 65s was mistaken/ malicious by someone who read the report but confused / didn't understand what he was reading.</p><p></p><p>2, the German report says there is no trial data to show efficacy in over 65s. This is why they are not licensing Pfizer in over 65s and using the AZ in younger people. Until and unless they can be shown data.</p><p></p><p>The Israelis had Pfizer vaccine on a deal they would provide all data from all age groups, this they've done. It works in all age groups very well. It's a git to handle.</p><p></p><p>I asked if follow up testing in the UK on the efficacy in over 65s was being done and got howled at that of course it is! </p><p>So why won't AZ/ Boris release it?</p><p>Today the United States FDA has come out and said there is no data on over 65s from AZ and none is forthcoming! </p><p></p><p>I said could Boris snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by delaying the second jab? That's been turned into I must have the UK!</p><p>I think it's a legitimate question. </p><p>The UK vaccination campaign has got off to a flying start, it would have been just as impressive if people were getting their second jabs within 4 weeks.</p><p> Stanley had 2 in a month though. Illiterate peasants can wait.</p><p></p><p>As for your UK will rule the world paragraphs... Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="le bon paysan, post: 7380376, member: 104"] Firstly , EU money helped upgrade the AZ facility in the UK. UvdL saying companies must fulfil their contracts is completely fair. Should they completely fulfil one contract and not supply another or scale back pro rata on a number of contracts? Brexit has nothing to do with this. But typical that you wanted third country status and now want special treatment. I posted a link that showed Frost didn't ask for many of the things you now want. You obviously didn't read it or chose to believe the liar Johnson. We shouldn't convolute the two subjects and am quite happy to continue arguing , over in a Brexit thread rather than spoil this one. It's up to you. As for the AZ being unsuitable for over 65s, two points. 1, the original reporting of 8% efficacy in the over 65s was mistaken/ malicious by someone who read the report but confused / didn't understand what he was reading. 2, the German report says there is no trial data to show efficacy in over 65s. This is why they are not licensing Pfizer in over 65s and using the AZ in younger people. Until and unless they can be shown data. The Israelis had Pfizer vaccine on a deal they would provide all data from all age groups, this they've done. It works in all age groups very well. It's a git to handle. I asked if follow up testing in the UK on the efficacy in over 65s was being done and got howled at that of course it is! So why won't AZ/ Boris release it? Today the United States FDA has come out and said there is no data on over 65s from AZ and none is forthcoming! I said could Boris snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by delaying the second jab? That's been turned into I must have the UK! I think it's a legitimate question. The UK vaccination campaign has got off to a flying start, it would have been just as impressive if people were getting their second jabs within 4 weeks. Stanley had 2 in a month though. Illiterate peasants can wait. As for your UK will rule the world paragraphs... Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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