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<blockquote data-quote="D14" data-source="post: 6373102" data-attributes="member: 49382"><p>Whatever happens we will be screwed nobody else. I've thought for a long while that this move towards environmental payments are nothing short of a con because it'll keep food prices where they are because its ultimately a subsidy. However we have got to spend it to do the environmental things such as the countrywide stewardship in order to get it. That will cost at least 50% of what you receive so we are all facing loosing 50% of what you get which will be considerably less than the SFP. Just looking at our stewardship scheme now and it pays £609/ha for the land thats out of the production of cropping. This is all land that is tight field corners or against water courses so has not really impacted on the bottom line. We've spent £150/ha establishing them though for a 2 year period so thats paid £450/ha which we think is good money. Then add in overwintered stubble which is something we would do anyway and you get another £84/ha so again thats money for nothing. The capital items then top it up which again do not affect our actual cropping so its things like hedge planting etc. So for us the CS assuming we get paid of course is good money. However if SFP is completely removed then the only way to maintain some subsidy income would be to fallow half of the land down on the enhanced overwintered stubble option which pays £436/ha. I can see a lot of people doing this and letting staff go and selling equipment as they are effectively halving the farmed area.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="D14, post: 6373102, member: 49382"] Whatever happens we will be screwed nobody else. I've thought for a long while that this move towards environmental payments are nothing short of a con because it'll keep food prices where they are because its ultimately a subsidy. However we have got to spend it to do the environmental things such as the countrywide stewardship in order to get it. That will cost at least 50% of what you receive so we are all facing loosing 50% of what you get which will be considerably less than the SFP. Just looking at our stewardship scheme now and it pays £609/ha for the land thats out of the production of cropping. This is all land that is tight field corners or against water courses so has not really impacted on the bottom line. We've spent £150/ha establishing them though for a 2 year period so thats paid £450/ha which we think is good money. Then add in overwintered stubble which is something we would do anyway and you get another £84/ha so again thats money for nothing. The capital items then top it up which again do not affect our actual cropping so its things like hedge planting etc. So for us the CS assuming we get paid of course is good money. However if SFP is completely removed then the only way to maintain some subsidy income would be to fallow half of the land down on the enhanced overwintered stubble option which pays £436/ha. I can see a lot of people doing this and letting staff go and selling equipment as they are effectively halving the farmed area. [/QUOTE]
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