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<blockquote data-quote="Frank-the-Wool" data-source="post: 7464297" data-attributes="member: 699"><p>I wouldn't entirely agree with your statement about the rivers, but much of what you say has some truth. It is also not all our fault in this country about the decline in Swallows and Swifts. Climate change and lack of food on their migratory routes have had an impact in recent years as has the ever increasing population in the world, especially Africa.</p><p></p><p>All of this talk of rewilding and reintroduction of apex predators will do little to help the smaller creatures which are an essential part of the whole food chain.</p><p></p><p>How many farmers these days actually control predators on their land?</p><p>We trap Mink and have Moorhens, Water Voles and many more Ducklings.</p><p>We trap Magpies and Crows and have many more small songbirds, the numbers and species have significantly increased along with winter feeding.</p><p>We shoot and trap Foxes most of which have been released into the countryside by ignorant people who think they will have a better life outside the City. The organisations that do this should be heavily fined as these animals should be put down and not relocated. We would have many more ground nesting birds if the Badger population was reduced to a sensible level as well.</p><p></p><p>We tolerate Stoats and Weasels at a low level to keep down rabbits.</p><p></p><p>We now have Buzzards, Kites (Red and Black), Marsh Harriers, Merlins, Hobbies, lots of Kestrels etc.</p><p></p><p>A few neighbours that have shoots do also control predators, but the majority don't. </p><p>The best and most conscientious is on our local nature reserve, but this has to be done very quietly and subtly in order not to upset the people who pay to support it and like all the wonderful wildlife but fail to understand the reality of what encourages this to thrive. They spend tens of thousands of pounds every year on fencing to keep out Badgers and Foxes from eating the ground nesting birds, but nearly always fail.</p><p></p><p>I was concerned that there was a statement recently that claimed there had been no benefit to other wildlife in the Badger culling areas. This is not what I heard from some farmers in the areas, but would like to know if this has been proved or is actually propaganda from May and Packham etc?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frank-the-Wool, post: 7464297, member: 699"] I wouldn't entirely agree with your statement about the rivers, but much of what you say has some truth. It is also not all our fault in this country about the decline in Swallows and Swifts. Climate change and lack of food on their migratory routes have had an impact in recent years as has the ever increasing population in the world, especially Africa. All of this talk of rewilding and reintroduction of apex predators will do little to help the smaller creatures which are an essential part of the whole food chain. How many farmers these days actually control predators on their land? We trap Mink and have Moorhens, Water Voles and many more Ducklings. We trap Magpies and Crows and have many more small songbirds, the numbers and species have significantly increased along with winter feeding. We shoot and trap Foxes most of which have been released into the countryside by ignorant people who think they will have a better life outside the City. The organisations that do this should be heavily fined as these animals should be put down and not relocated. We would have many more ground nesting birds if the Badger population was reduced to a sensible level as well. We tolerate Stoats and Weasels at a low level to keep down rabbits. We now have Buzzards, Kites (Red and Black), Marsh Harriers, Merlins, Hobbies, lots of Kestrels etc. A few neighbours that have shoots do also control predators, but the majority don't. The best and most conscientious is on our local nature reserve, but this has to be done very quietly and subtly in order not to upset the people who pay to support it and like all the wonderful wildlife but fail to understand the reality of what encourages this to thrive. They spend tens of thousands of pounds every year on fencing to keep out Badgers and Foxes from eating the ground nesting birds, but nearly always fail. I was concerned that there was a statement recently that claimed there had been no benefit to other wildlife in the Badger culling areas. This is not what I heard from some farmers in the areas, but would like to know if this has been proved or is actually propaganda from May and Packham etc? [/QUOTE]
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