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<blockquote data-quote="Cowabunga" data-source="post: 7937609" data-attributes="member: 718"><p>It has nothing whatsoever to do with who is in The White House. It has all to do with Putin wanting to expand Russian influence and territory to bring it back to some semblance of a Soviet Union. There is a very very high chance of Russian forces attacking their own side using Ukranian uniforms, imminently, in order to justify an invasion of Ukraine. Just as they did in Crimea some five years or more ago. Putin says that they will not have NATO forces in Ukraine, next door to Russia, yet the paradox is that if they invade Ukraine they most certainly will have several NATO countries right next door to them, so that is not a valid excuse for war at all.</p><p></p><p>NATO will not intervene militarily to help Ukraine, that much is clear. It is not a NATO country. Western countries, including the USA do promise to increase sanctions and prohibitions on people and trade with Russia like never before, if it comes to it. If we do that though, first thing Russia will do is stop gas exports through Ukraine and the yet to be utilised new direct pipeline. This will freeze, literally, the Ukrainian people and, significantly, most of Western Europe including Germany and the UK. It will cause fertiliser to be basically unavailable at any price, let alone at £1000/ton or more. That, in turn, will cause massive food shortages and price rises unseen since the Second World War and beyond the experience of all but a small number of people left alive in Western Europe today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cowabunga, post: 7937609, member: 718"] It has nothing whatsoever to do with who is in The White House. It has all to do with Putin wanting to expand Russian influence and territory to bring it back to some semblance of a Soviet Union. There is a very very high chance of Russian forces attacking their own side using Ukranian uniforms, imminently, in order to justify an invasion of Ukraine. Just as they did in Crimea some five years or more ago. Putin says that they will not have NATO forces in Ukraine, next door to Russia, yet the paradox is that if they invade Ukraine they most certainly will have several NATO countries right next door to them, so that is not a valid excuse for war at all. NATO will not intervene militarily to help Ukraine, that much is clear. It is not a NATO country. Western countries, including the USA do promise to increase sanctions and prohibitions on people and trade with Russia like never before, if it comes to it. If we do that though, first thing Russia will do is stop gas exports through Ukraine and the yet to be utilised new direct pipeline. This will freeze, literally, the Ukrainian people and, significantly, most of Western Europe including Germany and the UK. It will cause fertiliser to be basically unavailable at any price, let alone at £1000/ton or more. That, in turn, will cause massive food shortages and price rises unseen since the Second World War and beyond the experience of all but a small number of people left alive in Western Europe today. [/QUOTE]
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