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<blockquote data-quote="Two Tone" data-source="post: 8111085" data-attributes="member: 44728"><p>I'm bringing this over from another thread because it is more relevant to this thread:</p><p></p><p>This is the main problem - having to lock up such a lot of working capital for so long, before you see any return.</p><p>Yes, you can fool yourself that even at £1,000 a tonne for N fertiliser you will get you money back. But how do you finance it in the first place? And how amenable are Bank Managers going to be to allow it?</p><p></p><p>There used to be a service offered though merchants by NatWest called GROW-CASH.</p><p>GO-CRASH we used to call it, because virtually everybody that used it would almost certainly be at their overdraft limit most of the time.</p><p></p><p>It worked by Merchants offering to finance your fertiliser via Grow-cash, repaid by a future sales contract of a growing crop to the merchant. The interest rate was competitive and it meant you didn't need that awkward conversation with your Bank Manager.</p><p></p><p>I know some merchants can do this in-house already.</p><p>But I foresee a massive increase in this type of finance to offset every £29,000 lorry load of fertiliser that turns up on farm from now on.</p><p>Especially as BPS payments drop and won't cover that cashflow requirement any longer.</p><p>Resulting in even more of a strangle-hold of Farmers by their Merchants.</p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p>I've just looked up GrowCash on Google. It still exists calling itself Grow Cash Club.</p><p>In reality, it's a Merchants wet dream!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Two Tone, post: 8111085, member: 44728"] I'm bringing this over from another thread because it is more relevant to this thread: This is the main problem - having to lock up such a lot of working capital for so long, before you see any return. Yes, you can fool yourself that even at £1,000 a tonne for N fertiliser you will get you money back. But how do you finance it in the first place? And how amenable are Bank Managers going to be to allow it? There used to be a service offered though merchants by NatWest called GROW-CASH. GO-CRASH we used to call it, because virtually everybody that used it would almost certainly be at their overdraft limit most of the time. It worked by Merchants offering to finance your fertiliser via Grow-cash, repaid by a future sales contract of a growing crop to the merchant. The interest rate was competitive and it meant you didn't need that awkward conversation with your Bank Manager. I know some merchants can do this in-house already. But I foresee a massive increase in this type of finance to offset every £29,000 lorry load of fertiliser that turns up on farm from now on. Especially as BPS payments drop and won't cover that cashflow requirement any longer. Resulting in even more of a strangle-hold of Farmers by their Merchants. EDIT: I've just looked up GrowCash on Google. It still exists calling itself Grow Cash Club. In reality, it's a Merchants wet dream! [/QUOTE]
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