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<blockquote data-quote="Disco_rich" data-source="post: 7738716" data-attributes="member: 77204"><p>Its a question I've pondered for many, many hours ever since I started shooting. I have various pest control permissions locally, mostly obtained via sending (a lot of) letters and advertising in the local rag over five years or so, the largest being golf courses and polo paddocks/small holdings in the 100-150 acre bracket. For the most part, my experience is that farms are either already leasing the shooting, or are as per the gent above - just completely anti-anyone being on their land regardless of how they might benefit; cash certainly doesn't seem to sway farmers.</p><p></p><p>A friend of mine was a tractor driver in a tied cottage on a 500 acre farm that contracted another 3000-odd acres - I was fortunate to get on that until they sold up and he moved on. But it was quite obvious talking to the owner on numerous occasions that he wouldn't entertain anyone unknown to him/his employees being on his land.</p><p></p><p>Around here (West Berks) big chunks of land are controlled by various estates which run or lease large commercial shoots which = no chance. I was fortunate to come across an advert on gunsonpegs a few years ago by a chance, and have been leasing the shooting over 300 acres of a 1500 ish acre farm just over the border in Wiltshire. I have a good relationship with the owner and consider myself very fortunate to have obtained this. I'm under no illusion that the odds of coming across another similar ad again is pretty much zero.</p><p></p><p>I've shot steel targets a couple of times with a business run by a chap who was leasing some headland and other rough, steep land on the border of a fairly large arable farm in Wiltshire. I wont pretend to have a clue but I wouldn't have thought the strip of land in question was useful for much (you'd have a job getting any machinery up it without rolling it)/able to generate income otherwise. He's just called it a day as the owner has made it untenable for running it as a commercial venture (week days only, only available from Feb to July due to the shoot they run etc) so I assume money isn't the issue. Its so convenient for me I would have paid well to make whatever use was allowed of it, but I cant see any approach being successful sadly.</p><p></p><p>Having had run ins with lots of the public whilst shooting, I can see why land owners are averse to having randoms on their property - a lot of people just have zero respect and it seems to get worse with time. I'm forever picking sh!t up people have tossed rather than taken home, asking people to control their dogs (yes, I'm sure your dog is fine around sheep...) and shutting gates that people shouldn't have even opened in the first place. Add a few light-fingered pikeys into the mix and its not hard to see why everyone gets tarred with the same brush...</p><p></p><p>Without knowing a farmer personally (or someone who knows a farmer and knows you well enough that they'll vouch for/introduce you), its potentially an endless search sadly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Disco_rich, post: 7738716, member: 77204"] Its a question I've pondered for many, many hours ever since I started shooting. I have various pest control permissions locally, mostly obtained via sending (a lot of) letters and advertising in the local rag over five years or so, the largest being golf courses and polo paddocks/small holdings in the 100-150 acre bracket. For the most part, my experience is that farms are either already leasing the shooting, or are as per the gent above - just completely anti-anyone being on their land regardless of how they might benefit; cash certainly doesn't seem to sway farmers. A friend of mine was a tractor driver in a tied cottage on a 500 acre farm that contracted another 3000-odd acres - I was fortunate to get on that until they sold up and he moved on. But it was quite obvious talking to the owner on numerous occasions that he wouldn't entertain anyone unknown to him/his employees being on his land. Around here (West Berks) big chunks of land are controlled by various estates which run or lease large commercial shoots which = no chance. I was fortunate to come across an advert on gunsonpegs a few years ago by a chance, and have been leasing the shooting over 300 acres of a 1500 ish acre farm just over the border in Wiltshire. I have a good relationship with the owner and consider myself very fortunate to have obtained this. I'm under no illusion that the odds of coming across another similar ad again is pretty much zero. I've shot steel targets a couple of times with a business run by a chap who was leasing some headland and other rough, steep land on the border of a fairly large arable farm in Wiltshire. I wont pretend to have a clue but I wouldn't have thought the strip of land in question was useful for much (you'd have a job getting any machinery up it without rolling it)/able to generate income otherwise. He's just called it a day as the owner has made it untenable for running it as a commercial venture (week days only, only available from Feb to July due to the shoot they run etc) so I assume money isn't the issue. Its so convenient for me I would have paid well to make whatever use was allowed of it, but I cant see any approach being successful sadly. Having had run ins with lots of the public whilst shooting, I can see why land owners are averse to having randoms on their property - a lot of people just have zero respect and it seems to get worse with time. I'm forever picking sh!t up people have tossed rather than taken home, asking people to control their dogs (yes, I'm sure your dog is fine around sheep...) and shutting gates that people shouldn't have even opened in the first place. Add a few light-fingered pikeys into the mix and its not hard to see why everyone gets tarred with the same brush... Without knowing a farmer personally (or someone who knows a farmer and knows you well enough that they'll vouch for/introduce you), its potentially an endless search sadly. [/QUOTE]
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