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Forage wagon - I don't believe the hype
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<blockquote data-quote="DGC1" data-source="post: 457720" data-attributes="member: 680"><p>As a 3 wagon pottinger user- </p><p>Stones in reseed- no issue and NO loss of output or chop quality but the blades will need sharpening ar the end of the dat if stones are being picked up. The pottinger knife bank does not knock out if a stone goes through it so there are NO stringy loads. </p><p>Fuel use- regardless of light crop / heavy crop there is no question that an efficient wagon team will use less fuel than an efficient sp team doing the same job. </p><p>Haul distance- on very long hauls i think that sp still are the best option as a fleet of trailers in an area are easier to get together than say 5 wagons. This said if you roughly run one wagon to 2.5 normal 14t silage trailers the same ha will be cleared that day. </p><p>Mature crop chop length- it is important to have sharp blades i.e sharp every morning but even with monster swath and almost dead grass chop length is 100%. I know one wagon contractor who lifts over 4000ac p/a single cut and his customers dont have any issues with chop quality. </p><p>Output- wagons are the same as sp and it depends on how much hp is going into the system. As sp hp has creeped up then so has daily outputs- wagons are no different and we can clear as much as the biggest sp with 3 wagons going at moderate cart distance. App 180-240ac per day </p><p>Most importantly..... </p><p>Pit- yes it is ALOT harder to buckrake than sp and we have had to learn how to do it properly. </p><p>1) start at close by fields and lift further carts last- as normal with sp. </p><p>2) 1 wagon on close by fields requires 1 decent teleporter plus a tractor rolling</p><p>If fields are further away then a tele on its own is 100% fine</p><p>3) 2 wagons running in tandem needs an increased pit resource.</p><p>I.e 2no tele or one BIG tractor or 416/434</p><p>4) very high dm crops - tele is useless at rolling- as normal </p><p>5) a bigger tractor is required on the buckrake compared to sp chopped grass. We trialled an 828 v 936 last year and it would take 2.5no 828 to keep up with 936 in wagon silage. </p><p>If we pair more than one wagon together we now use reverse drive 939 on the pit and this results in a pit that looks rolled at all times and with very very good compaction. It will handle 3 wagons at close distance EASILY and makes light work of the harder to buckrake wagon silage.</p><p>Fuel use with 939 is also ALOT LOWER than a high reving shovel or a smaller tractor working hard. The above said a tele with a normal dung grab can do the same job as long as there is only one wagon running. </p><p>Sp will always have their workload but for most farms the right wagons in the right hands can produce very good results and at a significant cost saving so i disagree with previous posts that there is no point in discusding this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DGC1, post: 457720, member: 680"] As a 3 wagon pottinger user- Stones in reseed- no issue and NO loss of output or chop quality but the blades will need sharpening ar the end of the dat if stones are being picked up. The pottinger knife bank does not knock out if a stone goes through it so there are NO stringy loads. Fuel use- regardless of light crop / heavy crop there is no question that an efficient wagon team will use less fuel than an efficient sp team doing the same job. Haul distance- on very long hauls i think that sp still are the best option as a fleet of trailers in an area are easier to get together than say 5 wagons. This said if you roughly run one wagon to 2.5 normal 14t silage trailers the same ha will be cleared that day. Mature crop chop length- it is important to have sharp blades i.e sharp every morning but even with monster swath and almost dead grass chop length is 100%. I know one wagon contractor who lifts over 4000ac p/a single cut and his customers dont have any issues with chop quality. Output- wagons are the same as sp and it depends on how much hp is going into the system. As sp hp has creeped up then so has daily outputs- wagons are no different and we can clear as much as the biggest sp with 3 wagons going at moderate cart distance. App 180-240ac per day Most importantly..... Pit- yes it is ALOT harder to buckrake than sp and we have had to learn how to do it properly. 1) start at close by fields and lift further carts last- as normal with sp. 2) 1 wagon on close by fields requires 1 decent teleporter plus a tractor rolling If fields are further away then a tele on its own is 100% fine 3) 2 wagons running in tandem needs an increased pit resource. I.e 2no tele or one BIG tractor or 416/434 4) very high dm crops - tele is useless at rolling- as normal 5) a bigger tractor is required on the buckrake compared to sp chopped grass. We trialled an 828 v 936 last year and it would take 2.5no 828 to keep up with 936 in wagon silage. If we pair more than one wagon together we now use reverse drive 939 on the pit and this results in a pit that looks rolled at all times and with very very good compaction. It will handle 3 wagons at close distance EASILY and makes light work of the harder to buckrake wagon silage. Fuel use with 939 is also ALOT LOWER than a high reving shovel or a smaller tractor working hard. The above said a tele with a normal dung grab can do the same job as long as there is only one wagon running. Sp will always have their workload but for most farms the right wagons in the right hands can produce very good results and at a significant cost saving so i disagree with previous posts that there is no point in discusding this. [/QUOTE]
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