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"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
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<blockquote data-quote="Kiwi Pete" data-source="post: 5791858" data-attributes="member: 63856"><p>Then you can top, mow or spray them <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /></p><p>I usually have.</p><p></p><p>It's quite heartening when you get the patches to shrink again, one of those little victories that nobody gives a fudge about but is a source of happiness for me <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But they are difficult to "beat" in grassland especially if the landscape is just grassland - it's a diversity thing.</p><p>Whether we like it or not, the reason we have these weeds is because they are doing things that grasses cannot do.</p><p></p><p>And as you said, one of their major advanatges is that nothing defoliates them, so to control them then we must, for a while... but it only masks the symptom that our land has no plants like them - hence I'm keen to give chicory a try one day.</p><p></p><p>However, if your pasture is good enough quality then putting a mower through them in the wet and then grazing seems to hurt them, and cattle eat most of them once softened by the wilt <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite61" alt=":hungry:" title="Hungry :hungry:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":hungry:" /> and they are good food.</p><p>Very high in minerals, I use a refractometer to check my pastures and some of these weeds have way, way higher readings for WSC than our fancy grasses etc do</p><p></p><p>So they are good but mostly bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiwi Pete, post: 5791858, member: 63856"] Then you can top, mow or spray them (y) I usually have. It's quite heartening when you get the patches to shrink again, one of those little victories that nobody gives a fudge about but is a source of happiness for me :) But they are difficult to "beat" in grassland especially if the landscape is just grassland - it's a diversity thing. Whether we like it or not, the reason we have these weeds is because they are doing things that grasses cannot do. And as you said, one of their major advanatges is that nothing defoliates them, so to control them then we must, for a while... but it only masks the symptom that our land has no plants like them - hence I'm keen to give chicory a try one day. However, if your pasture is good enough quality then putting a mower through them in the wet and then grazing seems to hurt them, and cattle eat most of them once softened by the wilt :):hungry: and they are good food. Very high in minerals, I use a refractometer to check my pastures and some of these weeds have way, way higher readings for WSC than our fancy grasses etc do So they are good but mostly bad. [/QUOTE]
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