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<blockquote data-quote="Kiwi Pete" data-source="post: 6365372" data-attributes="member: 63856"><p>Learn to love them. The easiest way by far to "manage" them.... or many other "problems"</p><p></p><p>(I was hoping someone would comment, if I was provocative enough). Thanks Pete! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>Context is HUGE!</p><p></p><p>For an example, someone in the midwest US with 50,000 acres is NOT going to worry about thistles, docks, ragwort the way someone with 200 acres is going to worry...</p><p>Why? Because they will see the futility of 'action', as opposed to a change of management (which is, technically, an action <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />).</p><p></p><p>Similarly Mr Bigtime will not worry if the soil pH isn't correct for high-sugar ryegrass, or wonder when's the best time to plough a tenth of his land for a reseed, or whether he needs a topper.</p><p>At large scale, most of the options open to a wealthy smallholder are simply impractical to implement - which is why I look to those big ranchers for solutions.</p><p>They can't "whack on 3 tons of lime per acre" or 10 tons of manure, spray, mow it or completely change their usage of the landscape.</p><p></p><p>Most of these problems are only "monsters under the bed", not actually a landscape problem so much as a management problem <em>expressing itself through the plants that grow there... on that landscape</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>And usually - the symptoms point back to one underlying problem that needs to be solved - our system is degenerative, ie it is haemorrhaging carbon somewhere, usually a variety of leaks..</p><p></p><p>Sometimes it's through lack of groundcover, cultivation or creating bare soil is a fantastic way to do this.</p><p>Sometimes it's because we are grazing/removing more than what the landscape would naturally grow; or replacing what is removed with the wrong stuff.</p><p>Dead stuff, toxic stuff, is generally not what is needed. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":dead:" title="Dead :dead:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":dead:" /> Most fertiliser is as dead as it's possible to be.</p><p></p><p>And sometimes, it's simply because we are weakening the more desirable plants through poor grazing, which would otherwise easily outcompete the less desirable ones.</p><p>Sometimes we don't even know why we are choosing to grow these particular species, other than "it pays alright", which is interesting when you consider that the most profitable ecosystems are the most natural ones? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite26" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p><p></p><p>Sometimes our first reaction, to get rid of the evidence, is the main problem. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /> I did that, the thistles stayed - I learnt to love them, and they left - it can't have been "meant to be"? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite25" alt="(n)" title="Thumbs Down (n)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(n)" /></p><p></p><p>If I happened upon a car smash, the problems are reasonably apparent, but hiding the bloodsoaked bandages will not help the bodies recover.</p><p>Slowing the bleeding may help the outcome more!</p><p></p><p>That's what I was meaning by "hand-wringing" in my earlier post, just like at that car smash; if someone isn't going to be helping to address the main underlying problems, then they are probably better off back behind the cordon.</p><p>But if they're able to help keeping pressure on a wound, or monitor a patient, then that's a big help. I think we sometimes need to stop rushing around doing, and use our minds for that amount of time.</p><p> </p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiwi Pete, post: 6365372, member: 63856"] Learn to love them. The easiest way by far to "manage" them.... or many other "problems" (I was hoping someone would comment, if I was provocative enough). Thanks Pete! :cool: Context is HUGE! For an example, someone in the midwest US with 50,000 acres is NOT going to worry about thistles, docks, ragwort the way someone with 200 acres is going to worry... Why? Because they will see the futility of 'action', as opposed to a change of management (which is, technically, an action :rolleyes:). Similarly Mr Bigtime will not worry if the soil pH isn't correct for high-sugar ryegrass, or wonder when's the best time to plough a tenth of his land for a reseed, or whether he needs a topper. At large scale, most of the options open to a wealthy smallholder are simply impractical to implement - which is why I look to those big ranchers for solutions. They can't "whack on 3 tons of lime per acre" or 10 tons of manure, spray, mow it or completely change their usage of the landscape. Most of these problems are only "monsters under the bed", not actually a landscape problem so much as a management problem [I]expressing itself through the plants that grow there... on that landscape [/I] And usually - the symptoms point back to one underlying problem that needs to be solved - our system is degenerative, ie it is haemorrhaging carbon somewhere, usually a variety of leaks.. Sometimes it's through lack of groundcover, cultivation or creating bare soil is a fantastic way to do this. Sometimes it's because we are grazing/removing more than what the landscape would naturally grow; or replacing what is removed with the wrong stuff. Dead stuff, toxic stuff, is generally not what is needed. :dead: Most fertiliser is as dead as it's possible to be. And sometimes, it's simply because we are weakening the more desirable plants through poor grazing, which would otherwise easily outcompete the less desirable ones. Sometimes we don't even know why we are choosing to grow these particular species, other than "it pays alright", which is interesting when you consider that the most profitable ecosystems are the most natural ones? :unsure: Sometimes our first reaction, to get rid of the evidence, is the main problem. (y) I did that, the thistles stayed - I learnt to love them, and they left - it can't have been "meant to be"? (n) If I happened upon a car smash, the problems are reasonably apparent, but hiding the bloodsoaked bandages will not help the bodies recover. Slowing the bleeding may help the outcome more! That's what I was meaning by "hand-wringing" in my earlier post, just like at that car smash; if someone isn't going to be helping to address the main underlying problems, then they are probably better off back behind the cordon. But if they're able to help keeping pressure on a wound, or monitor a patient, then that's a big help. I think we sometimes need to stop rushing around doing, and use our minds for that amount of time. :) [/QUOTE]
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