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"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 7320509" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>we on the other hand, have bred cattle that require grain to finish/milk, on the beef side, more to do with the under 30 month rule, and a fixation with carcass size, and that has made some of the native breeds, go on to the rare breeds site.</p><p> Milk, the hol has turned itself into a milk machine, expensive grub in, watery milk out, and a few tough burgers at the end ! While we might know some of the solutions, it's the doing that's difficult. Never seemed quite right to me, that we cast our native breeds aside, and replaced what would nearly fatten on grass, for a cont, that won't. I watch a fair bit of u tube, the USA ranchers are still predominantly AA of Hfd, or x from, and although some of their methods are 'iffy' to say the least, they are turning out decent calves, to sell. USA is a vast country, with millions of acres of rough grazing, some improved, stocking rates are way different than ours, but if contracted to UK farm size, would they be similar ? The definitive answer, is the profit, and a lot of those ranchers are not making much, very similar to us, the difference between us and them, the simple fact that they use cows that fully utilise forages, hay, deferred grazing, conc only when needed, and then the cont cow and calf here, creep, silage etc, a cont cow needs a huge amount of 'grub' to produce to rear a calf. As with milk, litres per acre, or kg beef per hectare produced, is the bench line, then comes cost of production, that could be very variable.</p><p> As world population increases, food consumption will rise, WHO is already saying we wont be able to feed ourselves by 2030, therefore the habit of feeding large amounts of grain to cattle will be unsustainable, probably correctly. The buzz word in dairying is milk from forage, and, as the hol cannot do that per se, xbreeding back to cattle that will, is forming another cow revolution, or evermore expensive way's to feed them. I believe guv's have no wish for food prices to rise, the opposite one could say. To me, the answer appears to be, to reduce our cost of production, or put another way, we have to get more from our farms, with less imput, hard to achieve, or is it ? By looking after our soils, rebuilding organic matter, recreating the flora and fauna that naturally should be there, better yields will come naturally, with less fert/spray, as in what we put on the soil, stock that will produce of forage, or crops/rotation that will 'work' with the soil, are the answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 7320509, member: 86168"] we on the other hand, have bred cattle that require grain to finish/milk, on the beef side, more to do with the under 30 month rule, and a fixation with carcass size, and that has made some of the native breeds, go on to the rare breeds site. Milk, the hol has turned itself into a milk machine, expensive grub in, watery milk out, and a few tough burgers at the end ! While we might know some of the solutions, it's the doing that's difficult. Never seemed quite right to me, that we cast our native breeds aside, and replaced what would nearly fatten on grass, for a cont, that won't. I watch a fair bit of u tube, the USA ranchers are still predominantly AA of Hfd, or x from, and although some of their methods are 'iffy' to say the least, they are turning out decent calves, to sell. USA is a vast country, with millions of acres of rough grazing, some improved, stocking rates are way different than ours, but if contracted to UK farm size, would they be similar ? The definitive answer, is the profit, and a lot of those ranchers are not making much, very similar to us, the difference between us and them, the simple fact that they use cows that fully utilise forages, hay, deferred grazing, conc only when needed, and then the cont cow and calf here, creep, silage etc, a cont cow needs a huge amount of 'grub' to produce to rear a calf. As with milk, litres per acre, or kg beef per hectare produced, is the bench line, then comes cost of production, that could be very variable. As world population increases, food consumption will rise, WHO is already saying we wont be able to feed ourselves by 2030, therefore the habit of feeding large amounts of grain to cattle will be unsustainable, probably correctly. The buzz word in dairying is milk from forage, and, as the hol cannot do that per se, xbreeding back to cattle that will, is forming another cow revolution, or evermore expensive way's to feed them. I believe guv's have no wish for food prices to rise, the opposite one could say. To me, the answer appears to be, to reduce our cost of production, or put another way, we have to get more from our farms, with less imput, hard to achieve, or is it ? By looking after our soils, rebuilding organic matter, recreating the flora and fauna that naturally should be there, better yields will come naturally, with less fert/spray, as in what we put on the soil, stock that will produce of forage, or crops/rotation that will 'work' with the soil, are the answer. [/QUOTE]
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