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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 7379028" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>2017, shows how far KP has moved on since then ! Also makes me think how we have moved on from what we were doing 4/5 years ago, never been a true believer in urea as a fert, back in the 70's we used to inject urea in the grazing fields to last all summer, till that drought year, when it didn't work, last time we did that. In pure production increase, fert/urea is a cheap imput, that is reliable, and i have been using it for 50 odd years, and urea in cow rations for 25, which doesn't make it right, or wrong, just habitual. 5 years ago we were a highish imput, highish output herd, today the holstiens are gone, xbreds in, trying to rely on milk from grass, not a good idea, for the last three summers. We have moved from religiously ploughing, to d/d and tine cultivation, changed our crops, drought resistant grasses, herbs now in the ground, rapidly learning the value of sh1te, using it in targeted areas, and changing the way we graze, even listening to our aussie agrominist, and growing the hybrid rye, for silage, a really new crop, now sowing vetches with it, really go ahead stuff. As with all things ag, change has to be gradually phased in, if not, a big crop disaster, can be the finisher. Our change was prompted by 'seeing the writing on the wall', for the high/high milk production, and going block calving, alas, nature conspired against us, drought, and further changes made, until now, and further changes are in the pipeline, unfortunately, it can't all be done in one hit. I don't think any of us fully appreciate, how dynamic farming is, and how rapidly it can adapt to new 'requirements', whether our own, or the guvs. And yet, on here, we are talking about reusing, some of yesterdays proven methods. It scares me looking at the new technologies that are now, at the front of farming, not from the 'mindset', but from the cost side, it's easy to justify, if you WANT it, the pay back less so. Moving to the future, that is easy to predict, in the short term, guv will do all it possibly can, to stop food prices rising, leaving the gen public money to spend on manufactured goods, which help the tax man to increase his take. More reliance on imported food, to counter environmental measures decreasing home production, and helping our new global trade, with other poorer countries, where ag product, is the major export. And that leaves us at a xroads, my view is we have to completely concentrate on lowering our cost of production, including fixed costs, not easy at all, but, if imput costs keep rising, but product doesn't, things have to alter, and that, brings us to this thread, and that's what has put a very different angle on farming, in my view. What other options are there ? Intensification, technology etc, all add costs, labour etc, regen, or 'dog and stick' farming, are the only ones reducing cost, both these two, are pretty similar. Another long winded thread, ought to be medals, for x amount of words.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 7379028, member: 86168"] 2017, shows how far KP has moved on since then ! Also makes me think how we have moved on from what we were doing 4/5 years ago, never been a true believer in urea as a fert, back in the 70's we used to inject urea in the grazing fields to last all summer, till that drought year, when it didn't work, last time we did that. In pure production increase, fert/urea is a cheap imput, that is reliable, and i have been using it for 50 odd years, and urea in cow rations for 25, which doesn't make it right, or wrong, just habitual. 5 years ago we were a highish imput, highish output herd, today the holstiens are gone, xbreds in, trying to rely on milk from grass, not a good idea, for the last three summers. We have moved from religiously ploughing, to d/d and tine cultivation, changed our crops, drought resistant grasses, herbs now in the ground, rapidly learning the value of sh1te, using it in targeted areas, and changing the way we graze, even listening to our aussie agrominist, and growing the hybrid rye, for silage, a really new crop, now sowing vetches with it, really go ahead stuff. As with all things ag, change has to be gradually phased in, if not, a big crop disaster, can be the finisher. Our change was prompted by 'seeing the writing on the wall', for the high/high milk production, and going block calving, alas, nature conspired against us, drought, and further changes made, until now, and further changes are in the pipeline, unfortunately, it can't all be done in one hit. I don't think any of us fully appreciate, how dynamic farming is, and how rapidly it can adapt to new 'requirements', whether our own, or the guvs. And yet, on here, we are talking about reusing, some of yesterdays proven methods. It scares me looking at the new technologies that are now, at the front of farming, not from the 'mindset', but from the cost side, it's easy to justify, if you WANT it, the pay back less so. Moving to the future, that is easy to predict, in the short term, guv will do all it possibly can, to stop food prices rising, leaving the gen public money to spend on manufactured goods, which help the tax man to increase his take. More reliance on imported food, to counter environmental measures decreasing home production, and helping our new global trade, with other poorer countries, where ag product, is the major export. And that leaves us at a xroads, my view is we have to completely concentrate on lowering our cost of production, including fixed costs, not easy at all, but, if imput costs keep rising, but product doesn't, things have to alter, and that, brings us to this thread, and that's what has put a very different angle on farming, in my view. What other options are there ? Intensification, technology etc, all add costs, labour etc, regen, or 'dog and stick' farming, are the only ones reducing cost, both these two, are pretty similar. Another long winded thread, ought to be medals, for x amount of words. [/QUOTE]
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