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<blockquote data-quote="PostHarvest" data-source="post: 8001979" data-attributes="member: 1570"><p>I spent quite a lot of time there about 20 years ago and met one of their presidents socially. IMHO, their main problem is that they never really set in place an effective government, and mafia types were allowed to take hold. I knew a Lufthansa cargo agent at Odessa who told the story of "government customs officers" who had to "Buy" their jobs and would be fired if they didn't produce a high figure of revenue through duties and fines of which most was passed up the line to their superiors. Lots of farmers from Germany and the US went there to try to make their fortunes but many lost their shirts through the level of corruption in both government and business. A few days ago a Polish diplomat/politician was interviewed on the TV. He said that both Ukraine and Poland started out at the same level when USSR collapsed 25 years ago. Now despite being a smaller country with 1/3rd less people, due to reasonably competent government - thanks to Lech Walesa - the GDP of Poland is now 3x that of Ukraine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PostHarvest, post: 8001979, member: 1570"] I spent quite a lot of time there about 20 years ago and met one of their presidents socially. IMHO, their main problem is that they never really set in place an effective government, and mafia types were allowed to take hold. I knew a Lufthansa cargo agent at Odessa who told the story of "government customs officers" who had to "Buy" their jobs and would be fired if they didn't produce a high figure of revenue through duties and fines of which most was passed up the line to their superiors. Lots of farmers from Germany and the US went there to try to make their fortunes but many lost their shirts through the level of corruption in both government and business. A few days ago a Polish diplomat/politician was interviewed on the TV. He said that both Ukraine and Poland started out at the same level when USSR collapsed 25 years ago. Now despite being a smaller country with 1/3rd less people, due to reasonably competent government - thanks to Lech Walesa - the GDP of Poland is now 3x that of Ukraine. [/QUOTE]
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