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<blockquote data-quote="Howard150" data-source="post: 4686790" data-attributes="member: 30002"><p>As one who has visited Rome on several occasions, and whilst there done as the Romans. I am also a regular visitor to the realms of the Luddite and plough there willingly - not even kicking ends over - which some people championing the cause of hands free are apt to surreptitiously do. Let’s not forget the bit about him having no guilt casting the first stone.</p><p></p><p>Sorry CB but the grain of truth in your generalisations would lead to starvation of epic proportions.</p><p>There are many superbly gifted ploughmen apt to handle so said point about bad ploughmen is a poor generalisation. Handlers are generally ploughmen (sometimes relatives of ploughmen) and by that token can be good or bad ploughmen.</p><p>The next point of elephantine proportions is the bad loser bit. Some legendary bad losers are not known to be handlers whilst some can be both. Not all handlers are bad losers, simply trying to minimise their probability of losing.</p><p>There is also as according to the great Arlo Guthrie “a third possibility they hadn’t even counted on’ and in this instance is the fact that some handlers take a great deal of pride in their work and that’s why generally it is straighter, more uniform and pleasing to the eye.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of Arlo Guthrie, there is a great parallel with Harry adroitly shopping his fellow ploughmen, digital camera in hand. Arlo Guthrie made a record about having dumped some rubbish from Alice’s Restaurant from the back of his red VW Microbus.(fly tipping but the dump had been closed on thanksgiving) He was summoned, tried and found guilty of “littering” As evidence, the prosecution had 27 8x10 coloured glossy pictures, with circles n’ arrows an’ a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against him.</p><p>But that’s not what he came to tell us. He came to talk about the draft (American national service at the time of Viet Nam) The upshot of it was that having been convicted of a felony - littering - he was considered not moral enough to join the army and go on to burn women, kids, houses and villages.</p><p>Are you saying handlers are not moral enough to be prizewinners Harry or is it just that their moral compass is just on the sinistral side of North.</p><p></p><p>Joking apart and very much as I saiid earlier, this has to come down from the top and through the management route. Wherever systems are in place with flags and warnings then 99% of ploughmen will toe the line - unreservedly. Shopping fellow ploughmen creates division, bad feeling and has a markedly bad impact on the photographers ploughing. Life is far far too short. Just get out there and plough. Leave the rule application and policing of it to the Organisers as they see fit. Don’t forget - any society can impose their own rules and apply them however they see as appropriate. Even this is flawed to a degree. Whilst some Societies abhor handling by vast proportions, they see no wrong in slipping a visiting ploughman a 3 or a 4 for general appearance in order for their local hero to win. Please bear in mind. However aggrieved or wronged you may feel in the lower orders, it’s a lot lot tougher at the top for those apart grom the chosen few.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Howard150, post: 4686790, member: 30002"] As one who has visited Rome on several occasions, and whilst there done as the Romans. I am also a regular visitor to the realms of the Luddite and plough there willingly - not even kicking ends over - which some people championing the cause of hands free are apt to surreptitiously do. Let’s not forget the bit about him having no guilt casting the first stone. Sorry CB but the grain of truth in your generalisations would lead to starvation of epic proportions. There are many superbly gifted ploughmen apt to handle so said point about bad ploughmen is a poor generalisation. Handlers are generally ploughmen (sometimes relatives of ploughmen) and by that token can be good or bad ploughmen. The next point of elephantine proportions is the bad loser bit. Some legendary bad losers are not known to be handlers whilst some can be both. Not all handlers are bad losers, simply trying to minimise their probability of losing. There is also as according to the great Arlo Guthrie “a third possibility they hadn’t even counted on’ and in this instance is the fact that some handlers take a great deal of pride in their work and that’s why generally it is straighter, more uniform and pleasing to the eye. Speaking of Arlo Guthrie, there is a great parallel with Harry adroitly shopping his fellow ploughmen, digital camera in hand. Arlo Guthrie made a record about having dumped some rubbish from Alice’s Restaurant from the back of his red VW Microbus.(fly tipping but the dump had been closed on thanksgiving) He was summoned, tried and found guilty of “littering” As evidence, the prosecution had 27 8x10 coloured glossy pictures, with circles n’ arrows an’ a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against him. But that’s not what he came to tell us. He came to talk about the draft (American national service at the time of Viet Nam) The upshot of it was that having been convicted of a felony - littering - he was considered not moral enough to join the army and go on to burn women, kids, houses and villages. Are you saying handlers are not moral enough to be prizewinners Harry or is it just that their moral compass is just on the sinistral side of North. Joking apart and very much as I saiid earlier, this has to come down from the top and through the management route. Wherever systems are in place with flags and warnings then 99% of ploughmen will toe the line - unreservedly. Shopping fellow ploughmen creates division, bad feeling and has a markedly bad impact on the photographers ploughing. Life is far far too short. Just get out there and plough. Leave the rule application and policing of it to the Organisers as they see fit. Don’t forget - any society can impose their own rules and apply them however they see as appropriate. Even this is flawed to a degree. Whilst some Societies abhor handling by vast proportions, they see no wrong in slipping a visiting ploughman a 3 or a 4 for general appearance in order for their local hero to win. Please bear in mind. However aggrieved or wronged you may feel in the lower orders, it’s a lot lot tougher at the top for those apart grom the chosen few. [/QUOTE]
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