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<blockquote data-quote="Simon Chiles" data-source="post: 4572794" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>As far as I understand it, bearing in mind that I used to sit on the joint agricultural health and safety board, was that tractor foreloaders and telehandlers did not normally come under loler in agriculture under normal circumstances. It’s only when you start lifting people in man cages, using them for lifting objects in place that you might be working on or in circumstances where people are around during lifting operations. Your normal lifting a few bales, loading grain lorries and shovelling sh*t doesn’t count. Here is the quote from the HSE’s AIS28</p><p></p><p>■ foreloaders on tractors with safety cabs, telescopic loaders and forklift trucks with operator protection and where no other people work in the vicinity will not normally need thorough examination.</p><p></p><p>Obviously if you employ a few staff it’s always advisable to have a loler certificate as it would be fairly safe to assume that they are going to be operated in the vicinity of other people. Don’t forget that they all come under PUWER regardless of whether it’s subject to loler or not.</p><p></p><p>I’ve just had this conversation with my insurance company only a few days ago and they agreed that it wasn’t necessary, I suspect they soon realised that I knew what I was talking about.</p><p></p><p>Having a working relationship with some of the people higher up in the HSE I found it refreshing that they were genuinely interested in sensible solutions to improving health and safety at work without trying to tie the industry down with a load of bureaucratic twaddle, after all the more complicated something becomes the less likely it is to be implemented. Sadly this point seems to get lost as the message moves down the chain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simon Chiles, post: 4572794, member: 1233"] As far as I understand it, bearing in mind that I used to sit on the joint agricultural health and safety board, was that tractor foreloaders and telehandlers did not normally come under loler in agriculture under normal circumstances. It’s only when you start lifting people in man cages, using them for lifting objects in place that you might be working on or in circumstances where people are around during lifting operations. Your normal lifting a few bales, loading grain lorries and shovelling sh*t doesn’t count. Here is the quote from the HSE’s AIS28 ■ foreloaders on tractors with safety cabs, telescopic loaders and forklift trucks with operator protection and where no other people work in the vicinity will not normally need thorough examination. Obviously if you employ a few staff it’s always advisable to have a loler certificate as it would be fairly safe to assume that they are going to be operated in the vicinity of other people. Don’t forget that they all come under PUWER regardless of whether it’s subject to loler or not. I’ve just had this conversation with my insurance company only a few days ago and they agreed that it wasn’t necessary, I suspect they soon realised that I knew what I was talking about. Having a working relationship with some of the people higher up in the HSE I found it refreshing that they were genuinely interested in sensible solutions to improving health and safety at work without trying to tie the industry down with a load of bureaucratic twaddle, after all the more complicated something becomes the less likely it is to be implemented. Sadly this point seems to get lost as the message moves down the chain. [/QUOTE]
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