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<blockquote data-quote="Soya UK" data-source="post: 7432479" data-attributes="member: 41712"><p>Not to my knowledge Nitrams - i don't know of anyone who has tried that. I doubt it would be beneficial though, since lupins don't really need heat to grow (they grow perfectly well in Orkney, or Finland or Iceland - unlike heat-driven crops like Maize or Millet or soya).</p><p> </p><p>What is important, is growing the right lupin in the right area for the right job. The loss of Reglone means that areas like Hereford, or Wolverhampton, or North Lincs where we once would have grown white lupins for combining, are now blue lupin areas, since we no longer have the "get out of jail" card of using Reglone as a finisher (you can use roundup, but it's not ideal). </p><p></p><p>With blues, you can combine them anywhere in the UK - Aberdeenshire / Cumbria etc. no problem. </p><p></p><p>For forage, you can use blues and whites pretty much anywhere, since the long senescence period of the whites doesn't matter when you are wholecropping it. Blue lupin / triticale mix is usually foraged in mid/late August, whilst white lupin / triticale mix is usually cut at the end of August or early September. You can use spring wheat instead of triticale, and blue lupins will also partner with oats quite well. Lupin / barley mixes don't work because the barley matures too early.</p><p></p><p>The most important thing with the foraging of lupins / lupin mixtures, is not to cut too early. Cutting too early gives you a semi-palatable pile of rumen-degradeable nitrogenous mush. If you want nitrogenous mush in the rumen, then use red clover (or urea). Cutting at the right stage means the quality amino-acids have been formed, and you are then unsiling something that has soya-grade protein (and thats the game-changer).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Soya UK, post: 7432479, member: 41712"] Not to my knowledge Nitrams - i don't know of anyone who has tried that. I doubt it would be beneficial though, since lupins don't really need heat to grow (they grow perfectly well in Orkney, or Finland or Iceland - unlike heat-driven crops like Maize or Millet or soya). What is important, is growing the right lupin in the right area for the right job. The loss of Reglone means that areas like Hereford, or Wolverhampton, or North Lincs where we once would have grown white lupins for combining, are now blue lupin areas, since we no longer have the "get out of jail" card of using Reglone as a finisher (you can use roundup, but it's not ideal). With blues, you can combine them anywhere in the UK - Aberdeenshire / Cumbria etc. no problem. For forage, you can use blues and whites pretty much anywhere, since the long senescence period of the whites doesn't matter when you are wholecropping it. Blue lupin / triticale mix is usually foraged in mid/late August, whilst white lupin / triticale mix is usually cut at the end of August or early September. You can use spring wheat instead of triticale, and blue lupins will also partner with oats quite well. Lupin / barley mixes don't work because the barley matures too early. The most important thing with the foraging of lupins / lupin mixtures, is not to cut too early. Cutting too early gives you a semi-palatable pile of rumen-degradeable nitrogenous mush. If you want nitrogenous mush in the rumen, then use red clover (or urea). Cutting at the right stage means the quality amino-acids have been formed, and you are then unsiling something that has soya-grade protein (and thats the game-changer). [/QUOTE]
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