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<blockquote data-quote="egbert" data-source="post: 6617013" data-attributes="member: 9965"><p>Hmm.</p><p>always a useful exercise...so...taking the 2 groups of blackies - numbering 150</p><p>( some figures at this years actual costs, some at a rolling average, and some blind guesses!) (and I'm sure I've forgotten some)</p><p></p><p>10% of rent (less farmhouse) £1000 (they don't see much inbye) </p><p>15% of annual fencing budget £750 (but need greater share of fencing due to their nature)</p><p>Interest on flock ownership £675</p><p>Fodder contingency £25 (usually nothing)</p><p>Cake 50 days at £5 £250 (often nothing)</p><p>Grass keep away for tup lambs £50 </p><p>Dip chemical share £35</p><p>Blocks £50 (often less)</p><p>Meds (fluke/bolus/some lambs wormed) £350</p><p>Shortfall on wool/shearing £75</p><p>Yard/dip maintenance £200</p><p>Dog food share £200 (other dog costs nil, I might breed the odd litter, seldom buy a pup)</p><p>Workwear share £50 (being honest, tending them demands the best waterproofs!)</p><p>Use of 4x4/trailer for sales etc. £250</p><p> -------------------------------------------------</p><p>sub total £3960</p><p></p><p>Labour inputs</p><p>3 main gathers, and some misc checks 42 hours, </p><p>Lambing labour 30 hours</p><p>Dip labour (share) 14 hours</p><p>Bolusing fluking MOT labour 16 hours</p><p>Shearing support labour 24 hours</p><p>Tup prepping/tending 9 hours</p><p>Loading- attending sales 24 hours 159 hours @£15 labour total £2385</p><p></p><p>cost of inputs circa £6345</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Outputs</p><p> circa 60 wether lambs sold @£30 £1800</p><p>6 surplus ewe hoggs, @£50 £300</p><p>30 ewes drafted out @£45 £1350 (some sold, some moved into own draft flock)</p><p>5 culls @20 £100</p><p></p><p>Surplus from tups sold against bought £700 (doesn't always go that way!)</p><p> ------------------------------ </p><p> Cash output £4250 </p><p></p><p></p><p>Conclusions....</p><p>if we weaned more lambs, we'd be nearer the mark</p><p>When lamb/draft ewe prices are better, we're in the black. </p><p>(When lambs hit £50, and draft ewes £64, we had a rather better year.)</p><p></p><p>If you count the hidden costs, we're making a loss these last 2-3 years</p><p>If I count my own time at what I earn elsewhere........don't go there.</p><p>If I were to 'big up' the numbers, and pretend the black losses don't occur, I'm in clover! </p><p></p><p>hmm...it's not how many ewes I should keep, it's how few can I get away with!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="egbert, post: 6617013, member: 9965"] Hmm. always a useful exercise...so...taking the 2 groups of blackies - numbering 150 ( some figures at this years actual costs, some at a rolling average, and some blind guesses!) (and I'm sure I've forgotten some) 10% of rent (less farmhouse) £1000 (they don't see much inbye) 15% of annual fencing budget £750 (but need greater share of fencing due to their nature) Interest on flock ownership £675 Fodder contingency £25 (usually nothing) Cake 50 days at £5 £250 (often nothing) Grass keep away for tup lambs £50 Dip chemical share £35 Blocks £50 (often less) Meds (fluke/bolus/some lambs wormed) £350 Shortfall on wool/shearing £75 Yard/dip maintenance £200 Dog food share £200 (other dog costs nil, I might breed the odd litter, seldom buy a pup) Workwear share £50 (being honest, tending them demands the best waterproofs!) Use of 4x4/trailer for sales etc. £250 ------------------------------------------------- sub total £3960 Labour inputs 3 main gathers, and some misc checks 42 hours, Lambing labour 30 hours Dip labour (share) 14 hours Bolusing fluking MOT labour 16 hours Shearing support labour 24 hours Tup prepping/tending 9 hours Loading- attending sales 24 hours 159 hours @£15 labour total £2385 cost of inputs circa £6345 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Outputs circa 60 wether lambs sold @£30 £1800 6 surplus ewe hoggs, @£50 £300 30 ewes drafted out @£45 £1350 (some sold, some moved into own draft flock) 5 culls @20 £100 Surplus from tups sold against bought £700 (doesn't always go that way!) ------------------------------ Cash output £4250 Conclusions.... if we weaned more lambs, we'd be nearer the mark When lamb/draft ewe prices are better, we're in the black. (When lambs hit £50, and draft ewes £64, we had a rather better year.) If you count the hidden costs, we're making a loss these last 2-3 years If I count my own time at what I earn elsewhere........don't go there. If I were to 'big up' the numbers, and pretend the black losses don't occur, I'm in clover! hmm...it's not how many ewes I should keep, it's how few can I get away with! [/QUOTE]
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