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<blockquote data-quote="Andrew1983" data-source="post: 3608790" data-attributes="member: 147"><p>You have my sympathy there's nothing worse. I had this problem when I started to take over my father in laws herd 6 years ago. I had never seen such mad bitches of cows when they calved before. I have managed to cull the worst and I have had to learn to manage the remainders although they are getting fewer. </p><p></p><p>Extreme case I had a cow who would lick and rolled her calf while bawling into a corner at the water trough which was wet, I couldn't get near the calf to help. I had to pin her to wall with bales on forklift. Got the calf sorted but it still took joint ill and died. Another was determined to kill another cows calf never mind me. Here Salers were bad but the saler cross angus were top notch crazy. Hell of a good breeding cows but just horrible to work with. FIL had to be air ambulanced to hospital after getting done by a mad cow. </p><p></p><p>I spend a lot more time with cows than he did, he dropped bales into rings then bedded from forklift when cows were out eating. Iv changed buildings about and now walk through them at least 3x a day at calving. I get out of landy and walk through them in field too and carry a bag of grain about to put a drop here and there. I talk to them in a calm voice, I'm sure it helps. </p><p></p><p>More helpful solution in short term is a cow catcher. Drive in, get either the wild cow caught or get the calf you want to tag, at least you can do it in safety. </p><p></p><p>Could you set up an electric wire/tape round a gable and side of the shed, maybe a meter or so from the wall, it would give you a save corridor to walk round the back of them and somewhere you can dive into should worst happen. I haven't done this personally and it would obviously rely on cows respecting the fence. I agree a stick etc will only stop a medium nutter, the proper jobs just shut their eyes and keep coming. </p><p></p><p></p><p>My father and brother know sim bloodlines quite well (breeders for 40 years) Iv seen them avoid buying an otherwise good stock Bull in Stirling because somewhere in the distant family line there's a bull that was known for temperament issues. Be interesting to know what bull they are by if they are homebred?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew1983, post: 3608790, member: 147"] You have my sympathy there's nothing worse. I had this problem when I started to take over my father in laws herd 6 years ago. I had never seen such mad bitches of cows when they calved before. I have managed to cull the worst and I have had to learn to manage the remainders although they are getting fewer. Extreme case I had a cow who would lick and rolled her calf while bawling into a corner at the water trough which was wet, I couldn't get near the calf to help. I had to pin her to wall with bales on forklift. Got the calf sorted but it still took joint ill and died. Another was determined to kill another cows calf never mind me. Here Salers were bad but the saler cross angus were top notch crazy. Hell of a good breeding cows but just horrible to work with. FIL had to be air ambulanced to hospital after getting done by a mad cow. I spend a lot more time with cows than he did, he dropped bales into rings then bedded from forklift when cows were out eating. Iv changed buildings about and now walk through them at least 3x a day at calving. I get out of landy and walk through them in field too and carry a bag of grain about to put a drop here and there. I talk to them in a calm voice, I'm sure it helps. More helpful solution in short term is a cow catcher. Drive in, get either the wild cow caught or get the calf you want to tag, at least you can do it in safety. Could you set up an electric wire/tape round a gable and side of the shed, maybe a meter or so from the wall, it would give you a save corridor to walk round the back of them and somewhere you can dive into should worst happen. I haven't done this personally and it would obviously rely on cows respecting the fence. I agree a stick etc will only stop a medium nutter, the proper jobs just shut their eyes and keep coming. My father and brother know sim bloodlines quite well (breeders for 40 years) Iv seen them avoid buying an otherwise good stock Bull in Stirling because somewhere in the distant family line there's a bull that was known for temperament issues. Be interesting to know what bull they are by if they are homebred? [/QUOTE]
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