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<blockquote data-quote="BenB" data-source="post: 7481790" data-attributes="member: 1129"><p>Aha thank you [USER=166]@Brisel[/USER].</p><p></p><p>Just reading through [USER=156006]@Flatlander[/USER] ‘s descriptions has bought back some vivid memories of my couple of years in Manitoba ....particularly one time the client, his brother and another farm hand sat me down in the workshop, surrounded me and interrogated me as to why a large amount of their wheat had gone flat from a huge storm the night before!</p><p></p><p>Large areas of flat spring wheat seemed a relatively common occurrence each year I think due to a number of factors. Crop growth is incredibly rapid with generally most if not all N was applied in the seedbed (at high rates). No PGR use (at least when I was there), and possibility of severe weather/storms e.g dropping 4” overnight.</p><p></p><p>[USER=156006]@Flatlander[/USER] Where in MB are you out of interest and what soil type? Are you soil Nitrogen testing each year? I remember some (heavy!) deep, fertile soils around Portage. From our soil N tests we often found an impressive amount of N either in the soil already or likely to be released from mineralisation</p><p></p><p>I think there had been some bad experiences with PGRs in the past there as generally there seemed quite a bit of fear surrounding them. Chlormequat was only just being registered, Trinexapac was just starting trials I believe. As has been described above the problems I suspect were from full label rates being applied to very ‘soft’ crops under rapid growth and then possible large swings in temperature.</p><p></p><p>Another issue I remember was that the early stem extension timings didn’t really fit with existing sprayer passes.</p><p></p><p>I strongly believe these products will help you guys, as I said the amount of lodging was a sight to behold and not in the good way! Definitely support the other comments to try some strip trials at sensible rates of PGR, if you can apply in good conditions!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BenB, post: 7481790, member: 1129"] Aha thank you [USER=166]@Brisel[/USER]. Just reading through [USER=156006]@Flatlander[/USER] ‘s descriptions has bought back some vivid memories of my couple of years in Manitoba ....particularly one time the client, his brother and another farm hand sat me down in the workshop, surrounded me and interrogated me as to why a large amount of their wheat had gone flat from a huge storm the night before! Large areas of flat spring wheat seemed a relatively common occurrence each year I think due to a number of factors. Crop growth is incredibly rapid with generally most if not all N was applied in the seedbed (at high rates). No PGR use (at least when I was there), and possibility of severe weather/storms e.g dropping 4” overnight. [USER=156006]@Flatlander[/USER] Where in MB are you out of interest and what soil type? Are you soil Nitrogen testing each year? I remember some (heavy!) deep, fertile soils around Portage. From our soil N tests we often found an impressive amount of N either in the soil already or likely to be released from mineralisation I think there had been some bad experiences with PGRs in the past there as generally there seemed quite a bit of fear surrounding them. Chlormequat was only just being registered, Trinexapac was just starting trials I believe. As has been described above the problems I suspect were from full label rates being applied to very ‘soft’ crops under rapid growth and then possible large swings in temperature. Another issue I remember was that the early stem extension timings didn’t really fit with existing sprayer passes. I strongly believe these products will help you guys, as I said the amount of lodging was a sight to behold and not in the good way! Definitely support the other comments to try some strip trials at sensible rates of PGR, if you can apply in good conditions! [/QUOTE]
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