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Most cost effective way to build soil carbon
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<blockquote data-quote="Old McDonald" data-source="post: 3055342" data-attributes="member: 47276"><p>Mikep, I completely agree that any form of continuous cropping will deplete soil OM - unless (and this where we disagree) a lot of FYM is applied to the soil. My father had a smallholding that was permanently cropped, but we also had prodigious quantities of FYM from pigs and poultry. I do not have the records now (I think I lost them in Australia) but the soil OM was high through yearly heavy applications of FYM. FYM <strong>is </strong>OM. It may not be in a form available to the plants, but it is OM, and any picked up in soil samples will be included in the %age of OM in the results. It will in time become available to the plants. If you say otherwise, then what do you consider to be OM?</p><p></p><p>My experience is not limited to this farm, or even this country, hence my request for research to show that what I have experienced does not always follow. </p><p></p><p>From your last line, I think we are agreeing on the best way of increasing OM. My whole point in posting originally was to suggest to IEM that he might read Elliott's book and perhaps be persuaded to follow the idea of a 4 years' ley followed by 4 years' cropping. On a mixed farm, that is my preferred system. I only have two small fields that are not in olives or almonds, so cannot use the system here. </p><p></p><p>The only record I have seen of someone following Elliott for a long time is a book by William Lamin "Thirty Years farming on the Clifton Park system". Well worth reading, as well as Elliott, and is also available online.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Old McDonald, post: 3055342, member: 47276"] Mikep, I completely agree that any form of continuous cropping will deplete soil OM - unless (and this where we disagree) a lot of FYM is applied to the soil. My father had a smallholding that was permanently cropped, but we also had prodigious quantities of FYM from pigs and poultry. I do not have the records now (I think I lost them in Australia) but the soil OM was high through yearly heavy applications of FYM. FYM [B]is [/B]OM. It may not be in a form available to the plants, but it is OM, and any picked up in soil samples will be included in the %age of OM in the results. It will in time become available to the plants. If you say otherwise, then what do you consider to be OM? My experience is not limited to this farm, or even this country, hence my request for research to show that what I have experienced does not always follow. From your last line, I think we are agreeing on the best way of increasing OM. My whole point in posting originally was to suggest to IEM that he might read Elliott's book and perhaps be persuaded to follow the idea of a 4 years' ley followed by 4 years' cropping. On a mixed farm, that is my preferred system. I only have two small fields that are not in olives or almonds, so cannot use the system here. The only record I have seen of someone following Elliott for a long time is a book by William Lamin "Thirty Years farming on the Clifton Park system". Well worth reading, as well as Elliott, and is also available online. [/QUOTE]
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