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<blockquote data-quote="The Agrarian" data-source="post: 7752573" data-attributes="member: 3656"><p>Well, exactly. And that's what events like these two are for. Rather than leave historical wounds undressed to fester, it's thought better to dress them at appropriate opportunities like this with realistic admissions of what the successes and failures of partition have been, what can be learned, and how we can improve our interactions in light of the historical context we have been given. That is what most people want I think, and never mind the hardliners who make the most noise. </p><p></p><p>For most people, like in England, religion has never been a source of conflict, but simply a personal thing (and really just a very recent phenomenon of the last 400 years or so). So I wouldn't get hung up on some Catholic v Protestant thing in your head. It's always been about the tensions between the rights of various people to be here. Since hunter gatherers first arrived as the ice caps receded, there has always been a steady drip drip of movement of people on and off these shores, from Spain, farmers from the middle East, metallurgy from the steppes of what's now Russia, and so on. Of course we all came from Africa if you go back far enough<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" />. So, yes it's always been a nonsense for one 'group' to claim more right to be here than another. </p><p></p><p>Frankly, I look at the mainland and it's demographics, and I see here as being much more stable currently than England. Our immigration stalled by a couple of hundred years ago, while yours has been accelerating in the last century. I think you've got interesting times ahead. It's quite the melting pot. You've got fruitcakes too, like Tommy what's his face, claiming more right to be in England, while others want Islamic Jihad etc. And others want to have rival ethnic turf wars over things like drugs. Quite scary in some parts. Makes my locality seem very pedestrian! Plenty to think about eh?<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😁" title="Beaming face with smiling eyes :grin:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f601.png" data-shortname=":grin:" /></p><p></p><p>No wonder loads of English people are snapping up houses as they retire to here at the moment. My in-laws are selling, and they've had offers over the phone from the mainland without viewing...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Agrarian, post: 7752573, member: 3656"] Well, exactly. And that's what events like these two are for. Rather than leave historical wounds undressed to fester, it's thought better to dress them at appropriate opportunities like this with realistic admissions of what the successes and failures of partition have been, what can be learned, and how we can improve our interactions in light of the historical context we have been given. That is what most people want I think, and never mind the hardliners who make the most noise. For most people, like in England, religion has never been a source of conflict, but simply a personal thing (and really just a very recent phenomenon of the last 400 years or so). So I wouldn't get hung up on some Catholic v Protestant thing in your head. It's always been about the tensions between the rights of various people to be here. Since hunter gatherers first arrived as the ice caps receded, there has always been a steady drip drip of movement of people on and off these shores, from Spain, farmers from the middle East, metallurgy from the steppes of what's now Russia, and so on. Of course we all came from Africa if you go back far enough🤣. So, yes it's always been a nonsense for one 'group' to claim more right to be here than another. Frankly, I look at the mainland and it's demographics, and I see here as being much more stable currently than England. Our immigration stalled by a couple of hundred years ago, while yours has been accelerating in the last century. I think you've got interesting times ahead. It's quite the melting pot. You've got fruitcakes too, like Tommy what's his face, claiming more right to be in England, while others want Islamic Jihad etc. And others want to have rival ethnic turf wars over things like drugs. Quite scary in some parts. Makes my locality seem very pedestrian! Plenty to think about eh?😁 No wonder loads of English people are snapping up houses as they retire to here at the moment. My in-laws are selling, and they've had offers over the phone from the mainland without viewing... [/QUOTE]
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