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<blockquote data-quote="egbert" data-source="post: 7790392" data-attributes="member: 9965"><p>1st lesson, as amply show above....unless you're pretty sure of the background, ne'er buy out of the fat pens. </p><p>90% of the time there'll be a good reason he's there.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise...</p><p>depends on your situation.</p><p>If you've got a few misc ewes to keep the trash down, that need tupping, talk to a friendly sheepman locally.</p><p>Many would keep you back a decent entire for little more than a fat.</p><p>(for despite what everyone will wail, that's all a ram is)</p><p></p><p>You might want to spend more, but you've only an evens chance of doing better than the above in the long term.</p><p>It certainly is not a case of 'the more you pay for a tup, the more his lambs are worth'.</p><p>I've tried everything from the 'champion' on the day (which are as prone to dropping down deid as anything else), to ferals off unmanaged flocks, with a price tag of a bottle of something warming. </p><p>Have a guess which has done me the most good!</p><p>If you trust your own judgement, try pushing something you fancy at the tup sales. Sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.</p><p></p><p>You don't say what sort of ground you're on.....</p><p>I'm almost indifferent to what the store lambs will look like - few fat lambs are gathered off Mt Egbert. </p><p>What concerns me is whether the daughters of a new tup will persist under the conditions they'll subject to.</p><p>Maintaining the flock structure is everything.</p><p>And explaining how to judge that, or what it costs, is more than a single reply can do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="egbert, post: 7790392, member: 9965"] 1st lesson, as amply show above....unless you're pretty sure of the background, ne'er buy out of the fat pens. 90% of the time there'll be a good reason he's there. Otherwise... depends on your situation. If you've got a few misc ewes to keep the trash down, that need tupping, talk to a friendly sheepman locally. Many would keep you back a decent entire for little more than a fat. (for despite what everyone will wail, that's all a ram is) You might want to spend more, but you've only an evens chance of doing better than the above in the long term. It certainly is not a case of 'the more you pay for a tup, the more his lambs are worth'. I've tried everything from the 'champion' on the day (which are as prone to dropping down deid as anything else), to ferals off unmanaged flocks, with a price tag of a bottle of something warming. Have a guess which has done me the most good! If you trust your own judgement, try pushing something you fancy at the tup sales. Sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't. You don't say what sort of ground you're on..... I'm almost indifferent to what the store lambs will look like - few fat lambs are gathered off Mt Egbert. What concerns me is whether the daughters of a new tup will persist under the conditions they'll subject to. Maintaining the flock structure is everything. And explaining how to judge that, or what it costs, is more than a single reply can do. [/QUOTE]
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