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<blockquote data-quote="Grass And Grain" data-source="post: 7629790" data-attributes="member: 23184"><p>Reaonable thought [USER=946]@kiwi pom[/USER] </p><p></p><p>Thing is though, these UK mills that require our grain to be RT will also readily purchase grain from Ukraine, Canada, USA, Brazil, etc. and none of that is RT or equivalent. The merchant can buy 1000 lorry loads worth of stickers for £40, then it becomes assured. The shipper has to have done some lab tests on the cargo, but there's no specific list or requirements for these tests, so they could just test moisture and BW if they want to.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.aictradeassurance.org.uk/tascc/tascc-stickers/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Going back to your point, in Scotland they have SQC, RT in England (and Wales I think), equivalent schemes in Ireland. Mills accept them all - as being recognised. </p><p></p><p>Reason feed mills require RT,SQC etc is because AIC say they've got to, and RT livestock schemes say RT farms can only buy feed from AIC approved mills.</p><p></p><p>Perfect business model for both RT/SQC and AIC, as basically all cereals farmers need to be RT/SQC and all mills need to be AIC UFAS accredited.</p><p></p><p>The smell gets worse when you start digging. AIC have members of staff on the RT boards. AIC are part owners of SQC. AIC are on technical committees of Scottish Quality Meats. SQM also specify animal feed must come from an AIC UFAS mill.</p><p></p><p>Now they do say UFAS mill, or equivalent scheme. However, there are no other mill assurance schemes.</p><p></p><p>And the hauliers can't move the grain or the feed unless they are TASCC approved. That's in the RT/SQC rules, and in the AIC UFAS rules. Have a guess who owns the TASCC scheme? I'll give you a clue, it has the letters A, I and C in the word.</p><p></p><p>This leads one to ponder if these schemes are in existence to provide assurance, or simply to provide fees for the assurance providers.</p><p></p><p>AIC have been repeatedly asked if we can 'assure' UK grain by same method as they allow for imported grain. AIC have repeatedly said 'no', or made up hopeless excuses as to why not.</p><p></p><p>Draw your own conclusions from those facts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grass And Grain, post: 7629790, member: 23184"] Reaonable thought [USER=946]@kiwi pom[/USER] Thing is though, these UK mills that require our grain to be RT will also readily purchase grain from Ukraine, Canada, USA, Brazil, etc. and none of that is RT or equivalent. The merchant can buy 1000 lorry loads worth of stickers for £40, then it becomes assured. The shipper has to have done some lab tests on the cargo, but there's no specific list or requirements for these tests, so they could just test moisture and BW if they want to. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.aictradeassurance.org.uk/tascc/tascc-stickers/[/URL] Going back to your point, in Scotland they have SQC, RT in England (and Wales I think), equivalent schemes in Ireland. Mills accept them all - as being recognised. Reason feed mills require RT,SQC etc is because AIC say they've got to, and RT livestock schemes say RT farms can only buy feed from AIC approved mills. Perfect business model for both RT/SQC and AIC, as basically all cereals farmers need to be RT/SQC and all mills need to be AIC UFAS accredited. The smell gets worse when you start digging. AIC have members of staff on the RT boards. AIC are part owners of SQC. AIC are on technical committees of Scottish Quality Meats. SQM also specify animal feed must come from an AIC UFAS mill. Now they do say UFAS mill, or equivalent scheme. However, there are no other mill assurance schemes. And the hauliers can't move the grain or the feed unless they are TASCC approved. That's in the RT/SQC rules, and in the AIC UFAS rules. Have a guess who owns the TASCC scheme? I'll give you a clue, it has the letters A, I and C in the word. This leads one to ponder if these schemes are in existence to provide assurance, or simply to provide fees for the assurance providers. AIC have been repeatedly asked if we can 'assure' UK grain by same method as they allow for imported grain. AIC have repeatedly said 'no', or made up hopeless excuses as to why not. Draw your own conclusions from those facts. [/QUOTE]
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