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Shout out to Sally Bercow for persuading her husband to stay on as Speaker to 'kill off Brexit'
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<blockquote data-quote="Cowabunga" data-source="post: 6183648" data-attributes="member: 718"><p>I'm not sure I understand that. Are you saying that it is racist to expect any immigrant to be tolerant of, and to integrate with the culture into which they immigrate, to the people and language of that region? To expect immigrants [and visitors] not to object to signs and forms and people speaking the natural language of that region?</p><p></p><p>When I speak to English people, and indeed people from other regions, I try and speak a language they understand, and that includes posting here in English for the English speakers and indeed speaking to English speakers locally. However, if speaking to a Welsh first language speaker I will certainly speak to them in their native language. If out in mixed company, I'll endeavour to speak in a language that can be understood and is natural to the people directly concerned. This sometimes means that a non Welsh speaker is somewhat marginalised for short periods. That's just tough and most people who have been here a while accept that because the world doesn't revolve around then, the odd one out. They have the choice in the medium term of learning the language of course, and I would encourage everyone to do so, because they miss out on so much unless they do so, especially so in the agricultural environment. If they can't be bothered, that is their choice, but they shouldn't bleat about it as a small minority do, expecting everyone else but themselves to change to suit them.</p><p></p><p>If I bought a place or spent much time in France, Germany or Russia, I would certainly learn their language and use it, at least verbally. I have several friends who are absolutely fluent in Welsh despite coming here from England. Two examples are a lady that learnt Welsh when she fell in love with a Welshman and has a better vocabulary than mine. The other is a girl that came from London in her teens and learnt the language fluently and always uses it when possible who is now in her late 20's and a deputy headmistress of a large primary school in Liverpool.</p><p></p><p>I'm off to Cambridge for Easter with my wife and four friends and we shall certainly speak Welsh to one another but English, in which I'm perfectly fluent and bilingual, to locals there. I think monoglots are unaware that truly bilingual people can, for instance, read a book in one language and in the same breath discuss it with friends in another language and back and forth even with a sentence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cowabunga, post: 6183648, member: 718"] I'm not sure I understand that. Are you saying that it is racist to expect any immigrant to be tolerant of, and to integrate with the culture into which they immigrate, to the people and language of that region? To expect immigrants [and visitors] not to object to signs and forms and people speaking the natural language of that region? When I speak to English people, and indeed people from other regions, I try and speak a language they understand, and that includes posting here in English for the English speakers and indeed speaking to English speakers locally. However, if speaking to a Welsh first language speaker I will certainly speak to them in their native language. If out in mixed company, I'll endeavour to speak in a language that can be understood and is natural to the people directly concerned. This sometimes means that a non Welsh speaker is somewhat marginalised for short periods. That's just tough and most people who have been here a while accept that because the world doesn't revolve around then, the odd one out. They have the choice in the medium term of learning the language of course, and I would encourage everyone to do so, because they miss out on so much unless they do so, especially so in the agricultural environment. If they can't be bothered, that is their choice, but they shouldn't bleat about it as a small minority do, expecting everyone else but themselves to change to suit them. If I bought a place or spent much time in France, Germany or Russia, I would certainly learn their language and use it, at least verbally. I have several friends who are absolutely fluent in Welsh despite coming here from England. Two examples are a lady that learnt Welsh when she fell in love with a Welshman and has a better vocabulary than mine. The other is a girl that came from London in her teens and learnt the language fluently and always uses it when possible who is now in her late 20's and a deputy headmistress of a large primary school in Liverpool. I'm off to Cambridge for Easter with my wife and four friends and we shall certainly speak Welsh to one another but English, in which I'm perfectly fluent and bilingual, to locals there. I think monoglots are unaware that truly bilingual people can, for instance, read a book in one language and in the same breath discuss it with friends in another language and back and forth even with a sentence. [/QUOTE]
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