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<blockquote data-quote="Farfrae" data-source="post: 6862775" data-attributes="member: 778"><p>World economy has been crashed for no good reason..</p><p></p><p>One of the most recent academic papers from France <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972" target="_blank">Sars-CoV2:Fear versus Data</a> states amongst other things that</p><p></p><p><em>Under these conditions, there does not seem to be a significant difference between the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries and that of common coronaviruses (χ2 test, P=0.11). Of course, the major flaw in this study is that the percentage of deaths attributable to the virus is not determined, but this is the case for all studies reporting respiratory virus infections, including SARS-CoV-2. Indeed, viral infections are ecosystem infections where the outcome depends on the inoculums and the surrounding microbiota [26]. Thus, certain bacteria seem to be associated with symptomatic manifestations, such as Streptococcus pneumoniae, Haemophilus influenzae and Staphylococcus aureus, which are known to cause an excess of mortality due to secondary infection. Finally, seasonality, geographic location, heat and humidity are co-factors, as are age, gender and underlying pathologies. Under these conditions, <strong>and all other things being equal, SARS-CoV-2 infection cannot be described as being statistically more severe than infection with other coronaviruses in common circulation.</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Finally, in OECD countries, SARS-CoV-2 does not seem to be deadlier than other circulating viruses. In addition to coronaviruses, there are 16 endemic viruses in common circulation in developed countries (adenovirus, bocavirus, cytomegalovirus, enterovirus, influenza A H1N1 virus, influenza A H3N2 virus, influenza B virus, metapneumovirus, parainfluenzae virus 1, parainfluenzae virus 2, parainfluenzae virus 3, parainfluenzae virus 4, parechovirus, picornavirus, rhinovirus, syncytial respiratory virus), and 2.6 million deaths from respiratory infections (excluding tuberculosis) per year have been noted in recent years worldwide [27]. There is little chance that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 could change this statistic significantly. <strong>Fear could have a larger impact than the virus itself; </strong>a case of suicide motivated by the fear of SARS-COV-2 has been reported in India</em></p><p></p><p>Similar reports from elsewhere around the world that the data does not support the contention than this is statistically any more dangerous than normal flu outbreaks etc. All it does show is that the NHS has been run down to the point it can't cope with an event that is perfectly 'normal' and that the better strategy would have been to just isolate the vulnerable as detailed <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html" target="_blank">here</a></p><p></p><p>Plenty of dodgy statistics being used as well</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/" target="_blank">https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/05/covid19-death-figures-a-substantial-over-estimate/" target="_blank">https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/05/covid19-death-figures-a-substantial-over-estimate/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Farfrae, post: 6862775, member: 778"] World economy has been crashed for no good reason.. One of the most recent academic papers from France [URL='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972']Sars-CoV2:Fear versus Data[/URL] states amongst other things that [I]Under these conditions, there does not seem to be a significant difference between the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries and that of common coronaviruses (χ2 test, P=0.11). Of course, the major flaw in this study is that the percentage of deaths attributable to the virus is not determined, but this is the case for all studies reporting respiratory virus infections, including SARS-CoV-2. Indeed, viral infections are ecosystem infections where the outcome depends on the inoculums and the surrounding microbiota [26]. Thus, certain bacteria seem to be associated with symptomatic manifestations, such as Streptococcus pneumoniae, Haemophilus influenzae and Staphylococcus aureus, which are known to cause an excess of mortality due to secondary infection. Finally, seasonality, geographic location, heat and humidity are co-factors, as are age, gender and underlying pathologies. Under these conditions, [B]and all other things being equal, SARS-CoV-2 infection cannot be described as being statistically more severe than infection with other coronaviruses in common circulation.[/B] Finally, in OECD countries, SARS-CoV-2 does not seem to be deadlier than other circulating viruses. In addition to coronaviruses, there are 16 endemic viruses in common circulation in developed countries (adenovirus, bocavirus, cytomegalovirus, enterovirus, influenza A H1N1 virus, influenza A H3N2 virus, influenza B virus, metapneumovirus, parainfluenzae virus 1, parainfluenzae virus 2, parainfluenzae virus 3, parainfluenzae virus 4, parechovirus, picornavirus, rhinovirus, syncytial respiratory virus), and 2.6 million deaths from respiratory infections (excluding tuberculosis) per year have been noted in recent years worldwide [27]. There is little chance that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 could change this statistic significantly. [B]Fear could have a larger impact than the virus itself; [/B]a case of suicide motivated by the fear of SARS-COV-2 has been reported in India[/I] Similar reports from elsewhere around the world that the data does not support the contention than this is statistically any more dangerous than normal flu outbreaks etc. All it does show is that the NHS has been run down to the point it can't cope with an event that is perfectly 'normal' and that the better strategy would have been to just isolate the vulnerable as detailed [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html']here[/URL] Plenty of dodgy statistics being used as well [URL]https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/[/URL] [URL]https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/05/covid19-death-figures-a-substantial-over-estimate/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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