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<blockquote data-quote="Kiwi Pete" data-source="post: 7226197" data-attributes="member: 63856"><p>Foxgloves are the big indicator species around here on the steeper stuff - really it's grazed well but the terrain limits just how much you can subdivide, so graze periods are quite long. Very few thistles, mainly nodding and scotch and winged thistles if you see them.</p><p></p><p>Rhizomatous thistles are more notable in "developed country", lots of contributors here but the most obvious ones: fertiliser and occasional regrassing; (usually via break crops and cultivation, both of which limit the extent of the AMF networks in the soil to provide for the pasture plants).</p><p></p><p>As you ramp those up, and get less diverse pasture mixes, then the docks become more prevalent (unless there's sheep).</p><p></p><p>I guess my point is that where you have a good cover of thistle, your sheep won't be overgrazing these areas unless forced, which is the big clue - don't have your sheep "tidying" and you don't need thorny and prickly plants trying to maintain cover. </p><p></p><p>You can do all this via a management change, and leave the weeds to do the job they're doing and fade out by themselves. </p><p>I definitely didn't mean that it needs stock excluded, just don't let them manage themselves too much over spring/summer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiwi Pete, post: 7226197, member: 63856"] Foxgloves are the big indicator species around here on the steeper stuff - really it's grazed well but the terrain limits just how much you can subdivide, so graze periods are quite long. Very few thistles, mainly nodding and scotch and winged thistles if you see them. Rhizomatous thistles are more notable in "developed country", lots of contributors here but the most obvious ones: fertiliser and occasional regrassing; (usually via break crops and cultivation, both of which limit the extent of the AMF networks in the soil to provide for the pasture plants). As you ramp those up, and get less diverse pasture mixes, then the docks become more prevalent (unless there's sheep). I guess my point is that where you have a good cover of thistle, your sheep won't be overgrazing these areas unless forced, which is the big clue - don't have your sheep "tidying" and you don't need thorny and prickly plants trying to maintain cover. You can do all this via a management change, and leave the weeds to do the job they're doing and fade out by themselves. I definitely didn't mean that it needs stock excluded, just don't let them manage themselves too much over spring/summer. [/QUOTE]
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