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<blockquote data-quote="Kiwi Pete" data-source="post: 5032762" data-attributes="member: 63856"><p>This is dead right.</p><p>Fortunately, now that we have a century of hindsight in our favour, it appears that the problems they were alarmed about in 1912 are just as, if not more pronounced than they were.</p><p>Agriculture (by and large) simply spent a century developing ever-stronger tape to put over the cracks, pushing the problems along for the next generation... but there isn't an escape from our fate, til we think again. </p><p></p><p>Technology isn't the right tool to fix this one.</p><p></p><p>So long as monocultures are the standard method of crop production, there will never be enough effective "actives" - nature thought around that before great-grandpappy ever tried it. </p><p>Anyone heard of blackgrass?</p><p>It isn't the tools, it is the model that is the faulty part of the puzzle - the world will simply burn up all it's stored energy battling things that belonged in the first place.</p><p>Whether it is multiple farming forums, weeds in your crops, or worms in the ewes.... the solution is to embrace diversity, go with it, don't try to fight it.... selecting for resistance is all that has ever achieved.</p><p></p><p>The last century has been the greatest failure of human history, because <strong>all of this was known, yet ignored.</strong></p><p></p><p>That same message has been around since Abe Lincoln was a lad... he was incredibly distraught about the area under monoculture.</p><p>"Suddenly" biodiversity is re-revealed, again, as the concept that can reverse all the harm done to our land - very inconvenient for specialists that have been spurred on the wrong path by successive government, and corporate interests.</p><p></p><p>(Like you, and the rest, I am sceptical... but you just can't not see things that work, when they always have done.)</p><p></p><p>Nature will fill every niche, that we don't.</p><p></p><p>Now it is up to us to develop new harvesting methods that can deal with diversity - whether it is strip-till style wide-row cropping, successive cropping, canopy cropping... it is possible to do, everwhere.</p><p>(Polyculture cropping is just up the road from here, impossible to grow viable crops the way you guys do, as monocultures).</p><p></p><p>Too weather dependent, unreliable margins.... I must get some pictures of "the future", before Jeff puts his cattle on it.</p><p></p><p>It is only down to farmers unlearning the lovely sight of "a good clean crop of ......." and remembering what it will look like long we've gone: a tangled mess of good food, grown without any "inputs".</p><p></p><p>Sorry if it sounds "hippy", that is the truth you sought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiwi Pete, post: 5032762, member: 63856"] This is dead right. Fortunately, now that we have a century of hindsight in our favour, it appears that the problems they were alarmed about in 1912 are just as, if not more pronounced than they were. Agriculture (by and large) simply spent a century developing ever-stronger tape to put over the cracks, pushing the problems along for the next generation... but there isn't an escape from our fate, til we think again. Technology isn't the right tool to fix this one. So long as monocultures are the standard method of crop production, there will never be enough effective "actives" - nature thought around that before great-grandpappy ever tried it. Anyone heard of blackgrass? It isn't the tools, it is the model that is the faulty part of the puzzle - the world will simply burn up all it's stored energy battling things that belonged in the first place. Whether it is multiple farming forums, weeds in your crops, or worms in the ewes.... the solution is to embrace diversity, go with it, don't try to fight it.... selecting for resistance is all that has ever achieved. The last century has been the greatest failure of human history, because [B]all of this was known, yet ignored.[/B] That same message has been around since Abe Lincoln was a lad... he was incredibly distraught about the area under monoculture. "Suddenly" biodiversity is re-revealed, again, as the concept that can reverse all the harm done to our land - very inconvenient for specialists that have been spurred on the wrong path by successive government, and corporate interests. (Like you, and the rest, I am sceptical... but you just can't not see things that work, when they always have done.) Nature will fill every niche, that we don't. Now it is up to us to develop new harvesting methods that can deal with diversity - whether it is strip-till style wide-row cropping, successive cropping, canopy cropping... it is possible to do, everwhere. (Polyculture cropping is just up the road from here, impossible to grow viable crops the way you guys do, as monocultures). Too weather dependent, unreliable margins.... I must get some pictures of "the future", before Jeff puts his cattle on it. It is only down to farmers unlearning the lovely sight of "a good clean crop of ......." and remembering what it will look like long we've gone: a tangled mess of good food, grown without any "inputs". Sorry if it sounds "hippy", that is the truth you sought. [/QUOTE]
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