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The British countryside is being killed by herbicides and insecticides!
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<blockquote data-quote="mikep" data-source="post: 5210340" data-attributes="member: 4999"><p>This thread is classic in its myopia about the actual problems being faced.</p><p>A few insect or bird species being lost is not a problem, sentiment comes into it but from an ecological point of view then the vacuum will be filled quite quickly by another animal which thrives on the changed conditions.</p><p>Extinctions are part of evolution, if the present conditions don't suit you tough out to go. The most successful animals so far were the dinosaurs, they reached peak predator/prey status and maintained it for millions of years. Were if not for a chance meteor then they would still be around, much changed but still the dominant species and mammals would be the small minor creatures they were before.</p><p>As a human with a creative and retentive mind I can remember that when I was young there were huge numbers of swallows and sparrows about, the swallows now gone through no fault of mine and the spuggies much reduced. Hedge sparrows are now rare probably from the action of farmers over the years but.... House sparrows are nearly extinct too, why? Because of the chances in building design and living habits.</p><p>So I'm not going to take any sh!t from some urban based journo about my role in the hedge sparrows demise without them acknowledging their role in the demise of its townie cousin.</p><p>Everything is checks and balances but human nature is summed up best biblically "don't tell a man to take a speck out of his eye without taking the log out of yours"</p><p>Yes there is a problem but nature does not stay still, you cannot feed, house, socialise and employ 60million souls on a small island and have a bucolic thriving countryside as we all falsely remember.</p><p>Change will come slowly and cannot be hastened without massive problems. For example not all fungicides are equal in their collateral damage, I can remedy remember PP450 which translocated so fast it scorched leaf tips and went out of the roots quickly, not a good thing for soil fungi. Others are non moving and short lived so less harmful, those saying all fungicide should go are either young, forgetful or stupid. For many years we have forgotten what bunt or smut can do to a crop not only do they vastly reduce the yield but also ruin the rest of the grain by taint. I know that there are alternatives to fungicides for these specifics but it's there to illustrate the point that we do not know of the uncertainties and fear of plagues that our ancestors did so any reductions need to be done carefully and slowly so as not to cause disaster.</p><p>Those who stand by the touchline and criticise seem to have no answer they may mumble about organic but when we were organic famine was always just one wet year away. As far as I'm concerned if you haven't got a constructive and workable answer then you are part of the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mikep, post: 5210340, member: 4999"] This thread is classic in its myopia about the actual problems being faced. A few insect or bird species being lost is not a problem, sentiment comes into it but from an ecological point of view then the vacuum will be filled quite quickly by another animal which thrives on the changed conditions. Extinctions are part of evolution, if the present conditions don't suit you tough out to go. The most successful animals so far were the dinosaurs, they reached peak predator/prey status and maintained it for millions of years. Were if not for a chance meteor then they would still be around, much changed but still the dominant species and mammals would be the small minor creatures they were before. As a human with a creative and retentive mind I can remember that when I was young there were huge numbers of swallows and sparrows about, the swallows now gone through no fault of mine and the spuggies much reduced. Hedge sparrows are now rare probably from the action of farmers over the years but.... House sparrows are nearly extinct too, why? Because of the chances in building design and living habits. So I'm not going to take any sh!t from some urban based journo about my role in the hedge sparrows demise without them acknowledging their role in the demise of its townie cousin. Everything is checks and balances but human nature is summed up best biblically "don't tell a man to take a speck out of his eye without taking the log out of yours" Yes there is a problem but nature does not stay still, you cannot feed, house, socialise and employ 60million souls on a small island and have a bucolic thriving countryside as we all falsely remember. Change will come slowly and cannot be hastened without massive problems. For example not all fungicides are equal in their collateral damage, I can remedy remember PP450 which translocated so fast it scorched leaf tips and went out of the roots quickly, not a good thing for soil fungi. Others are non moving and short lived so less harmful, those saying all fungicide should go are either young, forgetful or stupid. For many years we have forgotten what bunt or smut can do to a crop not only do they vastly reduce the yield but also ruin the rest of the grain by taint. I know that there are alternatives to fungicides for these specifics but it's there to illustrate the point that we do not know of the uncertainties and fear of plagues that our ancestors did so any reductions need to be done carefully and slowly so as not to cause disaster. Those who stand by the touchline and criticise seem to have no answer they may mumble about organic but when we were organic famine was always just one wet year away. As far as I'm concerned if you haven't got a constructive and workable answer then you are part of the problem. [/QUOTE]
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