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The British countryside is being killed by herbicides and insecticides!
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<blockquote data-quote="melted welly" data-source="post: 5211158" data-attributes="member: 37168"><p>Your birdlife international article is as it says on the tin - international.</p><p></p><p>This thread that you started concerns the British countryside.</p><p></p><p>International industrialised farming presumably includes rainforest clearance for Palm oil production, slash and burn in developing countries, mono cropping, the plains of Eastern Europe, China and whatever they're up to now, netting of migratory birds in the Mediterranean........the list can go on and none of it happens in the uk. To take that article, which gives no specifics, just generic points and present it as your current rail against agriculture is lazy, ignorant and tiresome.</p><p></p><p>I didn't farm in the 70s, 80s or 90s, I started in the 21st century. We cover crop,use bio instead of agchem, there is a high impotence on biodiversity, nature, ICM and soil management. To pass our audits we have policies for everything from water management to recycling to soil improvement. </p><p></p><p>You think farmers are narrow minded and stuck in their ways but your reaction to the "gift of grouse" link would suggest you are incapable of even acknowledging any good may of been done. Why is that? Because it says that in order to protect those further down the food chain, you need to control those higher up? Inconvenient.</p><p></p><p>Someone who cannot change their mind will never change anything.</p><p></p><p>Bird of prey disappearances on shooting estates: was there not a case of "mass poisoning" being the result of conservationists putting out rancid meat? The hysteria died down quite quickly on that one.</p><p></p><p>What happened to the hedgehogs the rspb removed to protect ground nesting birds on the western isles? "Humanely captured" then released on mass on the mainland leading to massive over population. The rats they accidentally caught were dispatched with a few dozen rounds from an underpowered BB gun then bludgeoned.</p><p></p><p>Remove the hypocrisy from the green lobby, and a lot more people will listen to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="melted welly, post: 5211158, member: 37168"] Your birdlife international article is as it says on the tin - international. This thread that you started concerns the British countryside. International industrialised farming presumably includes rainforest clearance for Palm oil production, slash and burn in developing countries, mono cropping, the plains of Eastern Europe, China and whatever they're up to now, netting of migratory birds in the Mediterranean........the list can go on and none of it happens in the uk. To take that article, which gives no specifics, just generic points and present it as your current rail against agriculture is lazy, ignorant and tiresome. I didn't farm in the 70s, 80s or 90s, I started in the 21st century. We cover crop,use bio instead of agchem, there is a high impotence on biodiversity, nature, ICM and soil management. To pass our audits we have policies for everything from water management to recycling to soil improvement. You think farmers are narrow minded and stuck in their ways but your reaction to the "gift of grouse" link would suggest you are incapable of even acknowledging any good may of been done. Why is that? Because it says that in order to protect those further down the food chain, you need to control those higher up? Inconvenient. Someone who cannot change their mind will never change anything. Bird of prey disappearances on shooting estates: was there not a case of "mass poisoning" being the result of conservationists putting out rancid meat? The hysteria died down quite quickly on that one. What happened to the hedgehogs the rspb removed to protect ground nesting birds on the western isles? "Humanely captured" then released on mass on the mainland leading to massive over population. The rats they accidentally caught were dispatched with a few dozen rounds from an underpowered BB gun then bludgeoned. Remove the hypocrisy from the green lobby, and a lot more people will listen to you. [/QUOTE]
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