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<blockquote data-quote="The Agrarian" data-source="post: 7916800" data-attributes="member: 3656"><p>Hang on. So you're comparing how the tail end of medieval kings behaved with 20th and 21st century democracies? Right, ok!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /></p><p></p><p>I don't hear you give off too much to the Danes or the French about how their ancestral invaders behaved. You don't mention how your own invading ancestors behaved either, that is if you are able to trace them. We think people have been here for at least 5 or 6k years. Are you absolutely sure your ancestry dates back to the very first to landing/cross the ice sheets?<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😁" title="Beaming face with smiling eyes :grin:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f601.png" data-shortname=":grin:" /></p><p></p><p>The plantation was really just another step in a very long line of invasions of Scotia Major, as the Romans called the island. It came at the end of the completion of the forming of the counties of Ireland by the Normans (and subsequently the Anglo-French), with Londonderry being the last one to be formed. It reduced the administrative size of Tyrone, which of course had pre Norman roots. People were moved around during the plantation, certainly, but not expelled (apart from a handful of leaders who obviously couldn't stay), and there was a more communal system of farming, of grazing areas before that. It's not terribly useful to think of feudal land ownership in modern terms. The feudal system throughout Europe and Russia persisted for centuries after the plantation. It was how the known world was organised. It's not something many of us approve of today! We have new feudalism, or we call it capitalism. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /> ROI doesn't participate in that of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Agrarian, post: 7916800, member: 3656"] Hang on. So you're comparing how the tail end of medieval kings behaved with 20th and 21st century democracies? Right, ok!😂 I don't hear you give off too much to the Danes or the French about how their ancestral invaders behaved. You don't mention how your own invading ancestors behaved either, that is if you are able to trace them. We think people have been here for at least 5 or 6k years. Are you absolutely sure your ancestry dates back to the very first to landing/cross the ice sheets?😁 The plantation was really just another step in a very long line of invasions of Scotia Major, as the Romans called the island. It came at the end of the completion of the forming of the counties of Ireland by the Normans (and subsequently the Anglo-French), with Londonderry being the last one to be formed. It reduced the administrative size of Tyrone, which of course had pre Norman roots. People were moved around during the plantation, certainly, but not expelled (apart from a handful of leaders who obviously couldn't stay), and there was a more communal system of farming, of grazing areas before that. It's not terribly useful to think of feudal land ownership in modern terms. The feudal system throughout Europe and Russia persisted for centuries after the plantation. It was how the known world was organised. It's not something many of us approve of today! We have new feudalism, or we call it capitalism. 😂 ROI doesn't participate in that of course. [/QUOTE]
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